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Being an “employee”, regardless of amount paid or frequency of interaction, is something that would cause issues with some people’s real jobs

So does going on business trips for other companies, paid or unpaid.

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Going to an event is a business trip if and only if you get paid for it. People go to conventions all the time.

The people I’m talking about would absolutely be disqualified from a paid position and have absolutely no issue with an unpaid role.

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have absolutely no issue with an unpaid role.

Then clean my house in an unpaid role. Brainwashing people to accept unpaid jobs for for-profit companies are unpaid workers, no matter if you make up excuses for that or not.

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I clean up local parks for free, but if the city tried to pay me for it, I’d probably stop doing it. I don’t want to do it as a job, but I sometimes get in the mood to do it for free.

If I’m in the mood to clean up your house, I might just do it. But there can be no expectations on how or when I do it, and if I throw out that thing you really like, well maybe you shouldn’t have given me the keys.

The important thing is that there are no expectations. As soon as there are expectations, it becomes a job and I should be compensated for it. But if I can come and go as I please, say and do what I please, and there are no expectations on either end, I shouldn’t be paid.

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It’s not a fucking job, doesn’t resemble a fucking job, and if it was a job, most people couldn’t do it.

It’s an acknowledgment of members of the community to open a line of communication.

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