114 points

That’s a bit of a disingenuous way to put it, it’s reads to me more that they want to reach out/make official what some people were already doing.

permalink
report
reply
72 points

Yeah, allowing enthusiasts to represent the community and get perks isn’t crazy.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Yeah, allowing enthusiasts to represent the community and get perks isn’t crazy.

It’s not a community (like Debian), it’s a for-profit company.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

It the community of their customers. That’s who these people are representing, to the company. If this was a paid position, they would no longer represent the community.

It’s the same premise as interacting with a subreddit (before Reddit went insane) and recognizing the mods there rather than trying to force the community to one controlled by employees.

permalink
report
parent
reply
23 points

it’s reads to me more that they want to reach out/make official what some people were already doing.

So pay them?

permalink
report
parent
reply
26 points

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if paying them meaningfully lowered their pool of applicants. I would be very surprised if it didn’t lower the quality of the feedback.

Being an “employee”, regardless of amount paid or frequency of interaction, is something that would cause issues with some people’s real jobs, especially in tech fields, and especially if they’re people who want to encourage their employers to buy Framework in the future.

It also changes the nature of the relationship with Framework, how they interact with the community, and the feedback they’re willing to pass on.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Being an “employee”, regardless of amount paid or frequency of interaction, is something that would cause issues with some people’s real jobs

So does going on business trips for other companies, paid or unpaid.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

Exactly. If I really liked Framework laptops and Framework was forced to pay me, I’d refuse and probably stop posting about them. Getting paid for something makes it a job, and a job has expectations. I do hobbies because there’s no expectations, so I can be as consistent or as inconsistent as I want.

For example, I absolutely love Pine64 products, but I would hate Lukasz Erecinski’s job (their official “community manager”) because it takes the fun thing and makes it work, complete with expectations and whatnot. I think someone should get paid for that job, but it shouldn’t be an expectation for prominent members of the community to transition to paid positions.

That said, I wouldn’t say no to some merch as a “thank you,” but I’m not interested in merch as an expectation of future work. Maybe give me new products early to test, but not with the expectation that I’ll post a review or something (I probably will, but again, I don’t want it to be a job).

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

Well not “that” official.

permalink
report
parent
reply
60 points

I feel like they should at least provide them with a laptop If they’re going to do unpaid promotion.

permalink
report
reply
5 points

showcase Framework laptops and parts

I’m pretty sure they don’t expect you to bring your own…

permalink
report
parent
reply
47 points

Could at least give them a framework laptop.

permalink
report
reply
43 points

Our volunteer ambassadors will attend local Linux and open-source events, meet with other Framework laptop users and potential community members, answer questions, gather feedback, and showcase Framework laptops and parts to those interested. Ambassadors will be in close touch to Framework employees and they will represent the Linux community, feedback and requests directly to our engineers and to our internal Linux team.

That sounds way too close to unpaid labour. I’m all for recognizing community members with perks, merch, and other freebies; but this looks more like soliciting volunteers for unpaid PR.

permalink
report
reply
13 points

Everybody was doing this in 2007 for Google, Facebook, Apple. They seem to think times haven’t changed.

I don’t like something about Framework. I’m not sure what.

permalink
report
parent
reply
34 points

I’m a big fan of what they are achieving, but if they want free labour they can just eat shit

permalink
report
reply

Technology

!technology@lemmy.world

Create post

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


Community stats

  • 17K

    Monthly active users

  • 6K

    Posts

  • 128K

    Comments