His intervention comes as the presidents of Brazil, Mexico and Colombia all called on Venezuela to release the full details of last Sunday’s election.

It has also attracted global criticism, with many governments around the world demanding the Venezuelan government release proof of the result.

The result has been recognised by Venezuelan allies China, Russia and Iran.

But, the US, European Union and other G7 countries have called on Mr Maduro’s government to release detailed voting data.

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The USA has tried to make coups happen in Venezuela like half a dozen times or more over the decades, I just cannot trust anything America says about the internal politics of Venezuela.

Not that it matters what I think, America will do whatever the fuck it wants.

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Surprised you’re getting downvoted. People must have a very short term memory. I’d wait a couple days for them to get full results. It took like a week for the 2020 election to get the full results and that’s in the US.

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I’m on an instance that doesn’t allow downvotes and it kicks ass.

But people are goldfish when it comes to politics. They forget how the US tried to secretly arm groups supporting Juan Guaido so they could put him in charge like just a few years ago.

The US wants to open Venezuela’s natural resources, particularly lithium, to the West.

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Literally the whole world except dictatorships says it’s rigged, it’s not about the USA.

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Here are the results based on the voting receipts that the government doesn’t want to release

https://supervisiondev2.metabaseapp.com/public/dashboard/6b2f7b3b-16ec-4af6-84c7-69c39ee2139d?tab=16-english

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I’m Venezuela you can ask for a receipt of the votes for the place you voted at, the results have been compiled and made available by the opposition, Maduro got about a third of the votes, there’s a reason why he hasn’t released the numbers already.

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Even in the US it can take a like a week to compile detailed election results. In the 2000 election, it took more than 30 days to settle the election. They ended up handing it to the conservatives and life has gone downhill for the US since. You may really believe it, but there are people in the US who thought Trump would win every state and have called it a steal ever since.

It’s definitely possible he stole it, it’s very in character, but the US has a vested interest in helping the opposition make up numbers and it’s very in character for them to help with a coup, too. I’m just going to keep an open mind for a couple more days probably, see if any more countries jump in being angry at Venezuela that aren’t US aligned or if any more evidence comes out.

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You’re acting like only America says something about it. Only the most scummy countries seem to “believe” maduro.

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No, I’ve just seen this kinda thing happen again and again, specifically with Venezuela. Sadly, the nation is getting used as a political battleground, so of course America and its allies are on one side and their rivals on the other.

Plus, the US has a long dark history of meddling in the politics of South American countries, this is absolutely the kind of thing it does to extert power.

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A country full of resources is very often a curse for its people.

On a note, *meddling.

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This is not that.

Most of those failed interventions of Latin America mind you come from conservative administrations. Blinken isn’t a Neocon.

Maduro is corrupt as fuck and myriad independent nations and watchdogs corroborate the same point.

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I’m probably getting downvoted here, but I agree with your statement of the US having had a problematic history of usurping power from democratically elected governments in Central and South America. You can at least see that some of the countries that support Venezuela’s election results are run by dictators. Hell, Cuba and North Korea wouldn’t be out of place on that list too. Considering that Maduro lost a lot of popularity after Chavez’s death, partly due to the welfare system taking a huge hit when oil prices fell and partly due to him showing opulence in times of hunger.

All of these things may not be damning, but it puts the man in a bad light and makes me wonder if he actually did cheat the system in a way that our own domestic wannabe dictator tried doing just 4 years ago.

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America is a scummy country:

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Yes but the others are definitely worse.

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Here are the results based on the voting receipts that the government doesn’t want to release

https://supervisiondev2.metabaseapp.com/public/dashboard/6b2f7b3b-16ec-4af6-84c7-69c39ee2139d?tab=16-english

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Sigh. What about virtually every other country out there that is not a dictatorship saying it too?

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All US pawns. They said the same thing about the Soviets who brought a workers’ paradise to Eastern Europe until the capitalists finally overthrew them.

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Ha ha ha you’re so funny.Or stupid. Or paid lol, because you just can’t be that ignorant lol fr.

But please continue mr zero awareness guy, at least nobody is going to fall for that level of bs.

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Nice take edgelord. Living standards were quite low in the Soviet Union for the overwhelming majority of the population, and they had very little political freedom to imprpve them. Reforms were met with a coup attempt, and it fell apart into various states where even today many are not aligned with “the big spooky west”.

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the Soviets who brought a workers’ paradise to Eastern Europe

Lolol. Oh I’m chuckling away here. That’s so funny.

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People really not picking up on your sarcasm

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I suspect you are either too young to have even known someone that grew up in a Soviet state or you are just a fucking useful idiot.

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People like you make it harder to criticise the US for legitimate reasons.

Hell, “election monitoring” in South America is a pretty historically good reason to criticise them, but now anyone who wants to make this point has to grapple with being called a tankie, and we have to sit alongside statements like “the Soviets who brought a workers’ paradise”.

Gee, that might have happened if any functioning soviets actually survived the first couple of years of the USSR, and it hadn’t become a full-on counter-revolutionary state capitalist empire.

Edit: Actually looking at this person’s posts they appear to be sarcastic here. Sorry, but there are ways to do sarcasm that land, and this wasn’t it.

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I’m not saying I trust Maduro or anything, but the US making a statement makes me very suspicious about the truth of that, just based on history.

The US weighing in removes credibility to the claim that the election was tampered with.

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What if…the US said Maduro won? Would that add any credibility to the claim that the election was tampered with? Is Lula any less legitimate just because his victory was recognized by the US? Or would you just dismiss it and look at other opinions, mainly in SA stakeholders who suffered under US-backed dictatorships?

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Would it help if I said I knew someone from Venezuela who is adamant that Maduro cheated? My old coworker heavily dislikes Maduro

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