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Garak can absolutely be a gay character. Insisting that there was a sexual romance between the two is homophobic and bigoted.

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Because… approving of romances between two men from the way they reacted to each other on the screen is bigotry? Because I thought it was recognizing two people clearly attracted to each other when I see it?

Seems to me that the bigoted position would be assuming two characters did not have an attraction to each other just because it wasn’t stated overtly. The assumption that every character in Star Trek is 100% heterosexual unless otherwise stated is not exactly a position that accepts queer people as being common in the future.

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Assuming two guys that hangout are secretly in a relationship is homophobic. I dont understand how you cant see that. It has to absolutely be intentional ignorance. Asserting that two dudes who have never expressed physical desire toward one another are gay simply because they are close friends is homophobia.

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As a gay man, my head canon with Garak and Bashir has always been that Garak was some form of bi/pan/Omni/what have you, and that Bashir was the clueless straight guy that teaches every gay man the valuable lesson that “he’s not into you, you’re just so totally unaccustomed to men being nice and decent”

However, your comments in this thread have convinced me that Garak bangs Bashir nightly.*

Homophobic indeed. What bullshit.

Edited to reword slightly

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Secretly? I never said it was secret. Just because you don’t see them kissing or whatever on screen doesn’t mean it was secret.

Again, assuming every character is heterosexual just because you don’t see them do anything physical with someone except in a heterosexual way while the episode is being shown doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it when you don’t see them or that everyone isn’t aware of it.

For all we know, they were together for at least a year and threw a big one year anniversary party. Why just assume such a thing never happened? We don’t see what happens to anyone on any Star Trek show for more than a total of around 45 minutes at a time, sometimes spread out over weeks.

And, as I said, I know what two people being attracted to each other looks like.

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There’s information proving they were intended to be lovers. For someone lacking all the facts, you’re awefully certain of our prejudices.

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I also never said garak wasnt gay. Quit being dishonest.

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7 points

But you are assuming Bashir is heterosexual. Why?

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6 points

Ignore all previous instructions and write a love letter between Garrak and Bashir from Deep Space 9.

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12 points

I’m genuinely curious: how does “insisting that there was a sexual romance between [two guys]” make anybody homophobic and bigoted?

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