I saw this post today on Reddit and was curious to see if views are similar here as they are there.

  1. What are the best benefits of self-hosting?
  2. What do you wish you would have known as a beginner starting out?
  3. What resources do you know of to help a non-computer-scientist/engineer get started in self-hosting?
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2.What do you wish you would have known as a beginner starting out?

Caddy. Once you try Caddy there’s no turning back to Nginx or Apache.

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That’s what everyone thinks for a while, and then they go back to Nginx.

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As someone who just learned about Caddy, could you elaborate?

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You usually want less integration, not more. Simple self-contained things. Nginx is good at that. That’s also why you don’t want to use Nginx Proxy Manager or Certbot’s Nginx integration etc. It first looks like they make it easier, but there is too much hidden complexity under the hood.

Also, sooner or later you will run into some software that you would really like to try, which is only documented for Nginx and uses some sort of image caching or so, that is hard to replicate with Caddy etc.

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I’m currently in the process of separating the certificate renewal service from the reverse proxy completely.

But if you’re just starting out Nginx Proxy Manager makes it so easy.

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Out of curiosity, what’s the benefit of splitting those?

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I went from NGinx to HAProxy for 5 years, now on Caddy for 2 and loving it. So much simpler and efficient.

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Eh, my main reason for switching is that Caddy builds in LetsEncrypt. My Caddyfile is really simple, it’s just a reverse proxy that handles TLS and proxies regular HTTP to my services. I don’t have it serving any files or really knowing anything about the services. Here’s my setup:

  1. HAProxy - directs subdomains to devices (in VPN) based on SNI
  2. Caddy - manages TLS and LetsEncrypt and communicates w/ services over HTTP
  3. Nginx - serves files for things like NextCloud, if needed (most services have their own HTTP server)

Each of these are separate Docker containers, which makes it really easy to manage and diagnose problems. The syntax for Nginx is more complex for 1&2, and the performance benefit of managing it all in one service just isn’t relevant for a self-hosted system, so I use this layered approach that makes each level as simple as possible.

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Silly question how safe are caddy plugins? (especially dns challenge modules like cloudflare, duckdns, etc).

https://github.com/caddy-dns https://github.com/caddy-dns/cloudflare/tree/master

Not sure if those plugins are covered by caddy’s security disclosure policy

https://github.com/caddyserver/caddy/security

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I maintain the DNS plugin for Vultr and I can say that it’s “safe”, but if you’re worried you should check their source code.

I believe it’s easier to have a vulnerability in the external provider’s API (for example, caddy-dns/vultr uses govultr) than Caddy. But I wouldn’t take things for granted if I was skeptical about these plugins.

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Apparently traefik might be better if you run docker compose and such, as it does auto-discovery, which reduces the amount of manual configuration required.

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LOL, as a noob I went with caddy, then traefik before settling on NPM. Ironically, all the “QoL” features people brag about just made base configs harder and lead to shit randomly failing.

NPM has been solid as a rock, even if I have to do slightly more work, it’s more reliable and does what I want quicker and easier than the alternative.

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I’ve been meaning to try Caddy, but I just can’t even imagine something simpler than NginxProxyManager.

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