Comment by Neon 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️🇹🇼🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈@lemmy.world on Red line

Spling splong your opinion is wrong

Not an opinion.

Noun:

(by extension) One who subscribes to or advocates (neo-)Nazism, or a similarly fascist, racist, anti-Semitic, xenophobic, ethnic supremacist, or ultranationalist ideology; a neo-Nazi.

Adjective:

(by extension) Domineering, totalitarian, or intolerant. synonym ▲ Synonym: fascist

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Nazi

IMO

not an opinion

Which one is it then?

Also, it is wrong:

Der Nationalsozialismus war keine geschlossene Lehre, sondern begründete eine »Weltanschauung«, in deren Mittelpunkt die Idee des »arischen Herrenvolkes« stand, das sich aller Mittel zu bedienen hat, um sich »Lebensraum« zu schaffen, andere (angeblich minderwertige) Völker und Nationen zu unterdrücken und die Welt vom (angeblich einzig Schuldigen, dem) Judentum zu befreien.

https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/lexika/politiklexikon/17892/nationalsozialismus/

I hold the opinion that that is so.

Me holding an opinion like it doesn’t make the fact more or less correct.

You’re trying to define the objective correctness of a fact, because you confuse my opinion for what it represents.

Why on Earth do you think linking German when discussing English colloquialisms would be in any way related…?

We’re definitely not discussing English colloquialisms, were discussing ideologies.

And it just so happens that the bpb is the de-facto authority in this ideology.

Or do you think that a German engineer can’t talk about bridges because he can only talk about “Brücken”?

We’re definitely not discussing English colloquialisms

That’s weird seeing how I DEFINITELY was. Direct quote from the beginning of my earlier comment:

“Nazi” is more a colloquial term

#colloquial term

Do you think you can just go about telling people that what they’re literally talking about isn’t what they’re actually talking about?

Also a direct quote from the same comment:

“So yeah, in essence, these Israeli Jews are Nazis, however ironic it sounds”

This doesn’t have anything to do with colloquialisms anymore but instead with real-world facts.

Let me demonstrate:

If you suddenly start calling every coloured bird a Parrot, will a Bluefinch become “in essence” a Parrot?

Of course not. A Bluefinch is a Bluefinch and not a Parrot, the same way a Whale isn’t a Fish just because it has fins even though we tend to colloquially call animals with fins “fish”. Because words have meanings that you can’t just re-define.

So no, you can’t call them a Nazi. Because it is just plain factually wrong.

Do you think you can just go about telling people that what they’re talking about isn’t what they’re actually talking about?

Well, i think my Comment did a good job representing how from my point of view you were the one derailing the discussion and making it about colloquialisms when it was clearly about allegations of Nazism.

So maybe we should not presumptively make accusations? Who am I kidding, this is the Internet.

You can use every language in the world to define any other word in any other language and it still does not save you from semantic pitfalls and poor rhetoric.

I think we can all age that the bpb, the German federal office tasked with working up the Nazi past of Germany, is the authority on Nazism

Calling Trump a Nazi because he has a Hitler book next to his bed? Perfectly fine. Enough evidence.

Calling israel Nazis because they’re committing Genocide in order to expand their Lebensraum? Let me pull up esoteric German sites which happen to have a definition to fit my narrative.

Esoteric German sites

The bpb a esoteric website?

Please

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/behoerden/DE/bpb.html

It’s really not that hard to find out about it

Hitler was a big Fan of Mussolini and considered him his great Idol. Does that mean he was a Mussolinist and not a Nazi?

I clicked on the frontpage of your link and it’s literally a Zionist lobby site lmao

This is literally the official website of the German ministry for the interior you absolute unbelievable fucking retard.

Stop trolling and do something useful with your life

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