Conservative activists, led by a local pastor and outspoken Israel advocate, pushed the district, Mission CISD, to excise books mostly about gender, sexuality and race. Their demands represented an extreme version of a nationwide culture war over books that has played out in recent years — and ensnared a number of books with Jewish themes.

In Mission, the long list of books on the chopping block includes a recent illustrated adaptation of Anne Frank’s diary; both volumes of Art Spiegelman’s Holocaust graphic memoir “Maus”; “The Fixer,” Bernard Malamud’s novel about a historical instance of antisemitic blood libel; and “Kasher in the Rye,” a ribald memoir by Jewish comedian Moshe Kasher.

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So you think that all books should be available to all kids in public schools?

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We have these people who go to college and get specialized degrees so that they can do things and work in school libraries and figure out what books are appropriate for the school.

You might have heard of them. They’re called librarians.

Deciding what books do and don’t belong in a library is literally part of their job. I know, because I’m married to one. She used to work in a school library, now she works in a public library. It was a Catholic school (she’s an atheist, they didn’t discriminate) and they trusted her to figure out which books were appropriate for their kids because of her degree. What does that tell you about librarians?

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It tells me that they are obviously evil because they don’t blindly support a white Christian authoritarian regime.

/s

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The funny thing is that I know for a fact that there are Trump supporters who work in the library where my wife works (one is a cis woman with a mustache who must be mistaken for trans regularly, which surprised me), and they also don’t approve of this shit. I mean yeah, they’re total hypocrites, but they still don’t support these book bans.

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We had like everything, from childrens books to engineering stuff. It’s filed differently so your fragile mind won’t need to see “adult” books if you don’t want to I guess.

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Books discussing about the horrors of the Holocaust is “adult”, I guess.

Lmao

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My fragile mind doesnt want minors to see things they shouldnt see till later. That should be a pretty obvious thing that everyone wants for children…

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Get rid of anything that mentions rape, prostitution, genocide, or god forbid SODOMY?

Out goes the bible then. No one under 18 should read it.

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I like how this argument assumes schools are just regularly stocking school libraries with your Literotica history.

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the world is hard and kids need to be taught about us in a controlled environment like a school.

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So remove them entirely? It’s not like the kids are going read one by chance and if they are seeking them then they are ready

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I’ve worked in school libraries.

The funny thing is that kids will only read things that are of interest to them, and if they’re interested in it, they’re old enough to read it. If they borrow it because they like the cover or all their friends have apparently read it or some such reason, you can be assured it’ll be returned after they get through the first page.

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It isn’t about them being available. Its about discussing the content and the deeper meaning. I would be totally fine with reading Adolf Hitlers - Mein Kampf in School, as long as the content gets discussed and why what he wrote wasn’t good.

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Nothing is going to be discusses it would just be sitting on the shelf and available. So I think we should all agree that censorship of books in public schools makes sense. I personally am fine with siding on the side of being more cautious and having kids less able to get books people think are not acceptable, and catching books that probably should be available in schools.

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If kids are only exposed to kid friendly stuff, then they will never learn anything and stay kids long into adulthood.

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You do realise that there’s a version of Mien Kampf that’s four times as long because there’s several experts annotating and debunking Hitler’s ideas right there on the page.

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You’re a fucking troglodyte.

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Censoring books due to reasons like “these books provide a point of view I’m not comfortable exposing my kids too” is usually a bad reason to censor books.

Problem I see is its all a pendulum on these issues where the reaction swings wildly back and forth the more energy were putting into it rather than having it settle the fuck down.

For instance these books being removed aren’t produced in spite of this issue. But for sure if we dig into censorship topic then pro censorship groups start bringing out books to be edgy cunts and prove a point.

Every issue has edge cases and we live in a time where people are so willing to be right they will make every edge case the center of an issue. Like in order to keep Maus on shelves we will now need to have a copy of Bomb making 101 or a book were one of these people wrote FUCK a million times just so they can get anti censorship people to say “hey that isn’t cool guys” but also the problem is I often find people are so militant in our beliefs that we have a hard time saying “that isn’t cool” when faced with something not cool but also that grinds against our moral beliefs

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Do you realize how many books are in a literary? The odds they will chance on one particular book are really small. And ig they do it’s far from the worst thing that can happen to them in a school

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Which books do you believe shouldn’t be provided in a classroom setting?

No copouts. I don’t think anyone expects a bunch of 3rd graders to have a discussion on 50 Shades of Grey.

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I think the opinion as to what shouldnt be in public schools is reasonable, and I am cool if we are overly restrictive if there is a reason that is good and is supported by enough people.

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You didn’t answer my question. Let’s try a different one. Once again without copping out: Give us a couple good reasons for why a book should be restricted in education.

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All books ever!!! The Necromomicon! Solomon’s Demonology! THE ANARCHIST’S NOTEBOOK!! PEPPA PIG GOES TO HELL!! !

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10 points

No gods, no masters, no borders, no censors.

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Yes

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4 points

Only if these books are inscribed on the side of a Glock

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Yes, so 4 year olds can read mein kampf

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If you put that book in a kindergarten library, I can guarantee none of the kids will read it.

The only two reasons not to have it are 1) budget and 2) space. Use the room and money for books the kids will read.

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