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I’m not arguing for or against, just saying that there is no path on deciding what the author meant because we don’t even know who wrote it and they are long dead anyway. And there is nothing to study in nature because it was all fiction.

There is a original writer on startrek. They could recon Sisco to a tea lover tomorrow. The Bible is more like meme history, there is no regulating mechanism other than popularity. If you made the apple a banana tomorrow and most people agreed, it would be a banana and you would be right.

Of course, and I did not shit on any beliefs. I only commented on the phrasing that you chose, namely “what the fruit was”. Even if you were talking about a short story fan fiction this would be the same situation.

The story had dozens of authors and rewrites. There is no correct answer. Possibly some authors and editors would give you different answers. My take is that there is no correct answer to be found and we can’t rely on checking facts of the event.

Good thing there never was any apple because it’s all fantasy improv. Just decide on a fruit and you are as right as everybody else.

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Sorry if you got the impression that I am Christian. I am atheist and believe that we have to avoid resorting to the same kind of fantasy arguments that theists use.

That is why I feel that throwing out conjectures as if they were facts is contrary to a sound reasoning necessary to overcome theist thinking.

Thank you for taking time to look up the knowledge that are the basis of your argument.

I remain unconvinced because just the possibility of another meaning does not pose a convincing case for that alternate meaning to be the “correct” one.

The notion that there is a correct version of the story that is different than the current bible interpretation is probably also harmful because it entertains the possibility that any version is correct. But I think knowing the current version of the fantasy story is probably good so you can take it to pieces if necessary.

No, thanks. Your turn.

Do you have a source on your claim? Why do you say this when it’s completely false? You are spreading misinformation.

Source:

 34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”

• https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 1%3A26-38&version=NIV

Parthenos Definition 
NAS Word Usage - Total: 15

    a virgin
        a marriageable maiden
        a woman who has never had sexual intercourse with a man
        one's marriageable daughter
   
    a man who has abstained from all uncleanness and whoredom attendant on idolatry, and so has kept his chastity
        one who has never had intercourse with women

• https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/parthenos.html