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He just announced foreign vehicle tariffs and there is a huge scandal brewing around the Signal thing. If the media stays on the Signal leak it could become a Watergate-sized problem.

So, Trump hit the “distract them with Greenland” button. He couldn’t use the “distract them with Canada is a state” button again, he used that one for the Social Security thing last week.

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I feel like if Watergate happened half the country and most of Congress would find some way of justifying it and no one would even remember it happened a week later because something else equally insane would come up.

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Watergate is such a tiny thing in comparison to what tiny hands has done. He has brought a mob to the capital to overthrow the government. Now he is just destroying the government from inside.

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… because overthrow from without is soooo 2021

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I think it’s really dangerous to keep dismissing the Greenland talk as a distraction. We have learned the lesson dozens of times before not to dismiss anything he says because it’s just “crazy talk.”

Taking control of Greenland and Canada would give a US-Russian alliance complete control over the Arctic circle, which has been a tactical goal of Putin’s for decades.

The day could come very soon when the US will take military action against Europe on behalf of Russian interests, and the rest of the world should take it seriously and prepare.

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Every time an American claims something is just a distraction I get more annoyed. Threats of invading sovereign nations is not just a distraction. It’s pretty fucking alarming as a citizen of one of those nations and the dismissal of it is offensive

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It’s pretty alarming as a citizen of the US as well. But our conservatives are upset over the signal leak and indifferent to the invasion of Greenland, so if we let trump distract is with the signal leak you lose.

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It’s all crazy talk until the flights of American troops and equipment start landing for an occupation force.

Scary times ahead for all, and Americans will struggle the most.

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and Americans will struggle the most.

I keep trying to encourage Americans to put in the effort to stop Trump and his sycophants/minions from escalating this trade war into a shooting war.

So far they either ask me for a detailed plan to save their country from itself or say its pointless to even try…

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Scary times ahead for all, and Americans will struggle the most.

Well, except for the innocent people who will be invaded…

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Believe me, I see the danger. I harbor no illusions that they wouldn’t go that far or that it’s just a distraction. Nothing is just a distraction, everything they say is an admission. I guess my point was Americans need to keep their eyes on this Signal thing because of how it could blow up but Trump knows how to distract so this week it’s Greenland, and next time it will be Canada again. When they have the power and the courts are nutted, then it won’t be a distraction but an action.

If they push this signal thing it just might crack. Then maybe set them back a few months or a year. Then we can have the midterms and maybe just maybe get a handle on some of this shit.

I have had 4 double shots of espresso since lunch so I am rambling lol good luck homie everyone is going to need it.

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I remember talking to this dude before Russia invaded Ukraine. He said Russia brought all the troops to the border for a military training exercise. I asked him where he learned that. He told me Russian state media… It’s amazing how gullible people are. Like truly so innocent and trusting.

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He’s 100% serious and also using it as a distraction. Both things are true. For some reason everyone cares about the signal leak and only about half of us care about invading Greenland, or rendering immigrants to a slave prison.

Signal is a weakness and Greenland is an attempt at distraction. He fully intends to invade, but distraction is why he’s talking about it right now.

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He’s flooded the zone with shit to the point that we can’t focus on any of it with the attention it deserves.

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Yeah he led an insurrection against the capital bro. Do you really think a group chat will be his downfall?

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Nowhere in there did I say it would bring down Trump. If it gets the media traction that it should get, it could split the Republican base enough to disrupt the Right’s hold on the House and Senate in November. I don’t think it will, though. The Greenland distraction has pretty much drowned it out. JD is over there going hard for his daddy, and we are not even through the weekend yet. As the old man said, “We will see.”

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Trump and the Trump administration are behaving like assholes all over the world.
USA has never been so universally unpopular.

Flight passangers from Canada to USA are down 70%.
Tesla sales in Europe are down 50%.

The boycotts have begun, and numbers like these may be common for 2025.
Trump will cost many jobs in USA, and increased inflation, and it seems an economic downturn too.

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Ok but you missed the part that the libs are mad.

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Thinking about why the US is so keen on Greenland: It’s only relevant for them if they intend to make enemies out of the EU, because they already have all the access they need. But only as long as they are allied with Europe.

It’s clear where this is headed. Russia is not the only reason why Europe is rearming.

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He’s planning to withdraw from NATO. Otherwise it makes no sense. USA already has more or less free access to build any military base they want there

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USA already has more or less free access to build any military base they want there

Which makes it extra stupid that Trump is demanding that he own Greenland for security reasons. The Americans can already expand their base there whenever they want.

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Danish news today talked about Trump and his people maybe not being aware of this. They are sure that the US consulate on Greenland has informed them but they are not confident that the administration even knows this.

I think that they are either being naive, kind or sarcastic

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They are going to cut the map up ww2 style, US gets the americas with green land and China and Russia split the rest. Russia takes Europe, and China gets the pacific. All the rest will dissapear. They may find a middle east partner for that region, and then exploit Africa.

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The plan is easy:

  • USA take Canada, greenland and everything up to Panama for Security Reason.
  • Russia take back some part of Europe because they are talking Russian.
  • China take South Korea with North Korea and Taiwan because it’s China anyway…

Easy plan for megalo-dictators

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why the US is so keen on Greenland

Testing the invasion waters with something most EUs will not want to risk their lives over, and then he doesn’t need to justify what he has on his airbase there.

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That is also why he wants an ICBM defense mesh, because realistically that’s the only chance Europe has to cripple us in a fight.

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Hardly. There are many ways to “cripple” the US without need to resort to a simple-minded military slugfest.

They could act to support Trump’s next reelection bid, for example. That’d be more devastating to American power than a nuke.

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Oof, truth bombs.

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Goddamn we suck so hard right now.

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Don’t even have to ask if we are the baddies

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Yeah, I think that’s one of the scariest things. Previous presidents have done a lot of terrible things, but there’s always been a basic rhetoric of morality- at oeast a pretence that official policy us “the right thing”.

The US’s latest bunch of clown have openly hateful and dishonest language, without any sense of shame. I don’t even think we’ve seen the beginning of the level of cruelty a country can achieve when it suddenly abandons any rule of law or accountability.

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“but there’s always been a basic rhetoric of morality- at oeast a pretence that official policy us “the right thing””

That’s what they taught me in school. It’s absolutely bullshit. This country was built on genocide to perpetrate slavery. It’s a warmongering nation that destroys other countries to ensure its own economic dominance on the world stage.

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These fascists need to dangle 🥰

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