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good to see teller talked some sense into him

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I see what you did there.

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I haven’t always agreed with him politically, but Penn Jillette seems like a good dude.

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he always seemed like more of a michael badnarik libertarian than the current far right social libertarians.

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What if the government is like Reddit? We move to lemmy to get away from their influence and to have our own values.

Why does this not make sense when it comes to politics? Communities are captured by network effects. It’s an uphill battle to make things right if the idiots have to be dragged along.

Even when it comes to racism, let people be racist somewhere. Let them live their miserable life while there is no need to waste resources on making them treat all humans with respect. However, unlike the North after the war, help those who are stuck with them, to get away.

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What?

let people be racist somewhere

No.

Let them live their miserable life while there is no need to waste resources on making them treat all humans with respect.

Where exactly is that supposed to happen? And how do you envision this working? You want us to enable a state run entirely by people who are racist and violent and give them their own place to do whatever they want? What exactly do you propose we do with the folks who live wherever this is already? Because it seems like in your scenario their choices are leave or live with racist assholes. Have you not even heard of Israel? Or are you just a racist fan of genocide?

However, unlike the North after the war, help those who are stuck with them, to get away.

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Because it seems like in your scenario their choices are leave or live with racist assholes.

If it is not a matter of principles, what is so bad about moving as long as you are supported? When done right, things should be better than living with assholes.

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Have you not even heard of Israel?

Good point. There is just no need to support that.

Many libertarians believe that the concept of freedom is in accord with the Non-Aggression Principle, according to which each individual has the right to live as they choose, as long as they do not violate the rights of others by initiating force or fraud against them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

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Okay. How does kicking a bunch of people off their land so you can have your own extra-white version of Israel fit into that?

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I am a PJ fan and follower, but I am well aware that he has long been a naive idiot operating from a place of priviledge. He is well insulated from the pitfalls of the ideas he espouses, and it took an UNDENIABLE COLLAPSE into straight up Nazism for him to finally grasp it.

Luv ya Penn, but I ain’t giving you any fucking medals

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Yeah, but the bar is through the floor at this point. I’ll take anything I can get.

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And the more people come out and say “oh shit I was wrong” the easier it becomes for others to do the same.

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We need to start sending the youths to the last bastion of American education.

This clown school graduate is walking circles around the Harvard and Yale doctorates.

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