I think bad decisions influence him cause he was younger than me. It makes me want to know what happened in his life he was able to buy an AR-15 at 22 I think. He had a good life going and it’s like no he tried to shoot Trump and I wonder why? I don’t see how you can just hate someone that much to also end your life over.

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Most people do not go out and attempt an assassination. That alone is an indication of some sort of psychotic break. Evidence may not have been made public yet or there may not be any. The only person who knew for sure is dead.

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I don’t think we can necessarily call all killers psychotic. Antisocials in the broadest of terms, maybe, sociopaths, probably, but they’re not necessarily all losing touch with reality.

In his case, given what we know so far, it does sound rather likely.

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To add to this, he had looked up several targets, including Biden. So it was likely as you say, a psychotic break followed by lashing out, rather than a partisan choice.

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The weapon he used was owned by his parents for many years prior. He grew up in a household full of guns. From everything we can tell right now, it seems like your typical school shooter. Depression and mental illness leads some to want to go with a bang, pun not intended. It doesn’t seem like he hated Trump, so much as he wanted to target someone famous.

That said to your ladder point, literally millions of people gave their lives to kill Hitler.

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Depression and mental illness leads some to want to go with a bang

No, they really fucking don’t, privilege and the sense of entitlement it gives do.

Like seriously, beyond the bullshit that is scapegoating mental illness because it’s easier than facing reality, that’s literally not how depression works, nor “mental illness” in general, especially when you consider that mentally ill people are significantly more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrate it.

Stop perpetuating this lazy counterproductive bullshit.

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While I get the point you are trying to make, unfortunately unthreaded bipolar depression can indeed lead to manic psychosis episodes. Hyper fixation and grandiosity are also common symptoms. We’re not talking about gender or racial violence here.

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Your best source is a Tumblr blog?

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your ladder point

The point made by a ladder!

(It’s “latter” point, haha)

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Aaah thank you, I reread the original post trying to find a point related to a ladder and eventually decided I just didn’t understand what the “ladder point” was referring to, but now I understand them!

Languages are fun :)

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At least he didn’t choose to attack a school instead.

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Might have ducked all our schools at once with his actions. Thankfully the polling hasn’t shown it helped trumps bottom line yet.

All those morons wearing maxi pads on their ears is an added bonus.

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Killed a fire fighter though 😡

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Fire fighters are generally good in my book, but I saw that guy’s Twitter profile and he was a genuine asshole.

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Onstage at a fascist rally.

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Not really. It’s like with any mass shooter case where the shooter kills themselves. It’s frustrating because we’ll never know what in their mind, got them to do what they did. So we’re all going to be spending lots of time just simply speculating and having hot takes.

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Unless you can talk to dead people I don’t think so.

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Anyone can talk to dead people, they just can’t talk back

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My best guess is he was hoping to kick off the Christian jihad/civil war by creating a martyr. He knew the maga folks would believe he was a Democrat plant and run with it.

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That’s been my theory as well.

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