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This is why you write the test before the code. You write the test to make sure something fails, then you write the code to make it pass. Then you repeat this until all your behaviors are captured in code. It’s called TDD

But, full marks for writing tests in the first place

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That supposes to have a clear idea of what you’re going to code. Otherwise, it’s a lot of time wasted to constantly rewrite both the code and tests as you better understand how you’re going to solve the task while trying. I guess it works for very narrowed tasks rather than opened problems.

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The only projects I’ve ever found interesting in my career was the stuff where nobody had any idea yet how the problem was going to be handled, and you’re right that starting with tests is not even possible in this scenario (prototyping is what’s really important). Whenever I’ve written yet another text/email/calling/video Skype clone for yet another cable company, it’s possible to start with tests because you already know everything that’s going into it.

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constantly rewrite both the code and tests as you better understand how you’re going to solve the task while trying

The tests should be decoupled from the “how” though. It’s obviously not possible to completely decouple them, but if you’re “constantly” rewriting, something is going wrong.

Brilliant talk on that topic (with slight audio problems): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ05e7EMOLM

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And then in the end we realize the most important thing was the tests we wrote along the way.

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Who tests the tests

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Who tests the tests for the tests

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Unfortunately, if anyone, I do.

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I’ve written some tests that got complex enough that I also wrote tests for the logic within the tests.

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We do that for some of the more complex business logic. We wrote libraries, which are used by our tests, and we wrote tests which test the library functions to ensure they provide correct results.

What always worries me is that WE came up with that. It wasn’t some higher up, or business unit, or anything. Only because we cared to do our job correctly. If we didn’t - nobody would. Nobody is watching the testers (in my experience).

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