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It’s not analogy, it’s allegory. It applies too well to the world.

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I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.

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True. But in 21st century colloquial speech, a linguist would have to admit that, descriptively, “widely applicable” and “allegorical” are nearly synonymous. But I’m also a fan of the quote, history does not often repeat itself - but it rhymes. So whether it’s fictional history or rough allegory, the end result is the same.

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in 21st century colloquial speech, a linguist would have to admit that, descriptively, “widely applicable” and “allegorical” are nearly synonymous

Ha. You’re the second person to have suggested that, so maybe there is something to it. But to be honest I’m not sure I agree. I don’t think I’d ever use the term allegory without authorial intent. (But to save repeating myself, I’ll just direct you to my reply to @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz.)

Or, at the very least, even if you are inclined to disregard authorial intent, there’s still a subtle difference between allegory and applicability in that allegory requires an almost direct one-to-one relationship between the text and various elements of the real world, while applicability can be much more subtle or broad strokes. Basically, applicability is a broader term than allegory, a superset.

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The fuck you on about, mate? You got a problem with allegories?

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I dunno if you’re just memeing or if you genuinely don’t know.

In case it’s the latter…I posted a fairly famous quote from the author responsible for the text this community is based on.

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Downvoted for disliking allegory.

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It’s a Tolkien quote about his buddy CS Lewis’s Narnia and he’s up his own ass in it.

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You downvoting granda Tolkien?

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Europe after stopping fighting the most brutal and effective wars for centuries:

You’re sure you want us back? We’ll be united this time too.

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Are you under the impression that Europe is somehow inoculated against imperialism? It’s been fine going along with the US right up to this point, and has sins all its own.

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Aye

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Yea? Not only has no eu country made no attempt to acquire new colonies in the last hundred or so years, they actively deloconized!

In opposition to the US, that demands mineral rights among others in Ukraine! That keeps Guam uprepresented for another example, or for a third example their threats of expansion to greenland and canada! When was the last time any eu countries did anything like that?

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Potentially yes, but europe was so nice all in peace (compared to before).

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Potentially? So a back when the populus couldn’t read then crimes against humanity was bad! But now, that the population can read now crimes against humanity are good? Makes a lot of sense

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You have no idea what you are talking about.

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I will draw you, Donald, as poison is drawn from a wound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIjVKbxuec&t=128

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I’m starting to think the same thing, if you go over US foreign policy since WW2 it is almost like the mask is just coming off entirely now.

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America did a lot of bad stuff, to put it mildly. This is definitely something else though.

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I agree, that’s what I mean by it just going mask off, there’s no pretending about a probable cause of higher moral path etc this time.

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What? You’re welcome for all that world peace and prosperity since ww2. It is about time Europe started to share this burden.

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Sorry to burst that bubble, but just because you were never taught about the things they’re talking about doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.

It just means your education system, like most, is run by nationalists that care more about using mythology to make more nationalists than about conveying historical fact.

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Lol national mythology

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It’s pretty disingenuous to act like the US took sole credit, or that Europe didn’t share in the burden of WW2.

Plus re:world peace - the USA has been involved in 32 wars since WW2 ended, none of them on American soil.

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Check the numbers. Those are vastly tiny compared to ww1 and ww2. Small policing actions are necessary to keep dictators in line.

There wouldn’t be a ww2 without Europe. Their faulty treaties and failure to stop dictators led to the conflict. America cleaned it up.

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Murica, land of the free, was founded by people who owned slaves. While speaking about the evils of slavery.

So the madness was always there.

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