173 points

How does this happen? Like people on the forum get into some argument about the turn radius of some tank and how they shouldn’t have lost a game, and then it escalates until someone posts the tank specs so they can be right on the internet?

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Yes. This is apparently so much of a problem that US and other nations include this in security training for military personnel and contractors. They literally teach you not to get in arguments online about weapons capabilities and whatnot because they know people are dumb enough to post classified info just so they can be like “ackshually…” on an internet forum.

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From what I’ve seen it’s usually that Gaijin have something wrong about the vehicle and so people leak actual classified information because they want it to be corrected.

MilSim people can be an odd bunch sometimes

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60 points

And the devs are like “Are you fucking dumb? We won’t use classified info in our game.”

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36 points

Well if it’s something like a turn radius, they can always claim that they just guessed right.

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13 points

Unless…

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33 points

Yea, I had a friend who spent his free time coding how different tarmac temperatures affect the wheels of a fighter plane in a flight sim. (DCS I think)

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5 points

sometimes

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68 points

One time it was a Chinese player pissed that their tank ammo wasn’t as strong as it should be so they posted it for the devs to buff

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43 points

It’s sometimes this, and it’s sometimes Gaijin just claiming something is classified for whatever reason.

Sometimes, a British tank crewman posts technical specs from their manual for the Challenger 2. Sometimes, Gaijin claims that a declassified, internationally available manual for a Cold War era plane is classified. Or the Wikipedia article on a WW2 tank.

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8 points

Yes. Supposedly it’s so bad that Raytheon includes the question “Do you or have you ever played War Thunder?” in their interviews now. Tho take that with a huge grain of salt.

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That and the game is popular among military and ex-military members.

IIRC the reporting fudges the definition of “classified” a bit too.

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Thank you! You post quality stuff.

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"This marks one of three leaks that have happened in the past week, though not all of them are directly tied to War Thunder. The first related to the release of documents on the Challenger British main battle tanks on the game’s forum, though that information was confirmed to be publically [sic] available from Britain’s National Archive."

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14 points

Why would you call “leak” the disclosure of publicly available information?

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There are at least two court cases I know, where the accusation is of leaking sensitive government info, while the info is publicly available. One is in Russia, and it’s kind of expected, considering what a bastion of free speech it is. One is in Estonia

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26 points

Asked me to disable my adblocker, but I’m just runnng vanadium lol

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18 points

Vanadium has had basic adblocking for about 5 months.

https://github.com/GrapheneOS/Vanadium/releases/tag/122.0.6261.43.1

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It’s also one of those websites that begs you to let it send notifications the moment it loads, and has the ads that follow you and stick to your screen while you scroll.

That said though, I had no issues with Firefox on android + uBlock origin

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Yeah, as far as I’m conceded, if my ad-blocker stops me, I missed nothing of value.

If its worth reading someone will copypaste it into lemmy

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107 points

Whats it this time?

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The leak happened earlier this week during a forum discussion regarding the T-90M, T-80BVM, and T-90S Russian main battle tanks, all of which are currently in service and appear in War Thunder itself. The documents shared are user manuals meant for those operating said vehicles and have, like most other military documents, been declared classified or sensitive even though they contain relatively surface-level information.

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136 points

For fucking once it’s not idiots leaking western stuff. I’m like halfway convinced War Thunder is a Russian intelligence operation

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tbf, if I ran an intel agency, after all these incidents, Id probably have someone “leak” fake classified docs on the warthunder forums or other similar places once in a blue moon, to spread misleading information to rival agencies as to the capabilities of my nation’s equipment. Both to blend in with a place idiots are known to actually post such info, and if its found out my agency was doing this, to cast doubt on the validity of any real docs from my side that were leaked before. Doesnt seem like itd cost much of anything to do, so there would have to be only minimal benefit to be marginally worth it

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41 points

There have been two leaks about Chinese tanks and two about Russian jets even before this one, so while it’s mostly Western gear it’s not only that

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38 points

Not even the stupidest Take. Gijin is a Hungarian game studio and Hungarian Govt is more or less pro Russian.

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35 points

it’s just morons trying to prove something. people don’t join the army because they’re too happy with who they are.

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53 points

Hope it helps Ukraine lol

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Ukrainian farmer: “How do I put this hunk of junk into Neutral so I can load it onto my trailer?” *starts an argument on War Thunder forums*

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101 points

Honestly these guys are both the smartest and stupidest folks imaginable at the same time - I’m just glad it’s the Russians they’re screwing over this time haha

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If they were smart, they wouldn’t be playing Warthunder in 2024, tho

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32 points

Ah yes, they must be playing that other historically accurate plane combat game whose name I totally forgot because it actually doesn’t exist and War Thunder is the only option.

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20 points

I think their point is that people that play “historically accurate plane combat game” 's are stupid.

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4 points

You have IL-2 1943 for the plane part and Gunner Heat PC for the tank part.

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14 points

There was a Ukrainian Bradley fighting vehicle gunner who took down a Russian main battle tank with the anti-personnel machine gun, and thanked his time playing war thunder for knowing where to hit it when he had no anti-armour and no armour piercing ammo

He took out its optics and turret control

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5 points

I have never heard of a 20mm auto-cannon being referred to as an “anti-personnel machine gun” before

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87 points

The autism of tank nerds never ceases to astound me.

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38 points

Next gen optics on modern MBT catch the whole spectrum

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