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Aside from the thousands of species we killed in the process
Itâs a recurrent theme in the history of the world you know, thousands, hundreds of thousands, tens of millions of species killed, never to be seen again.
No species ever lasts that long.
No species ever lasts that long.
Sharks enter the thread.
Awkward silence ensues
regulate billion dollar corporations and then over 99% of all pollution will stop.
Iâm not getting rid of my car, make billionaires and millionaires get rid of their private jets and make them stop dumping garbage into waterways
Sure, but those regulations have to be stuff like âno selling petroleum to people for their carsâ. Are you ready for a carless world? I am. If youâre not ready, you might find yourself opposing the necessary regulation when the time does come to regulate.
I donât know why these discussion are often met with âif youâre not ready to lose your car youâre the problemâ narrative.
I might not be ready to lose my car but I sure as hell am ready to lose coal based electricity, the military complex, single use plastic, billionaire who prefer to let a train derail than spend money on regulations, and a shit ton other things that wouldnât even affect my day to day life other than make it safer.
I might not be ready to lose my car but I sure as hell am ready to lose
Whatever it is youâre ready to lose, there are people out there who arenât ready to lose it.
coal based electricity
Fuck right off, there are entire countries who would be completely at a loss without coal-based electricity. Countries which would rather you lose your car.
the military complex
Everyone working in the military complex would rather you lose your car than they lose their jobs. Itâs you and your car vs millions of people all over the world specifically trained to identify threats to their security, find them and shoot/cut/drone/nuke them. Good luck.
single use plastic
I mean you wanna fight all the corpos involved with single used plastics, Iâm sure having your car will keep you from being suffocated with a plastic bag for like 2 hours.
Youâre unwilling to allow for changes in your personal lifestyle to globally change things for the better, so why the fuck would anyone else? Just nuke the planet from orbit at this point, weâre all egotistical shitheads and thereâs no way to convince Jimmy McFuckface to give up his 1994 truck, weâre done here.
Thatâs great, but EmperorHenry said regulation would stop 99% of emissions. I can assure you that personal vehicles and animal agriculture represent more than 1% of emissions. If weâre talking about a 20%, 50%, maybe even 70% reduction, then your argument is fine. But we need a 100% reduction in order to save the species. Iâm ready for 100%, are you?
Weâre actually going through the 6th mass extinction right now, so actually we are kinda killing most everything on the planet, not just us.
We should want to preserve that. Unfortunately a handful of old rich dudes donât care.
This is so fucking stupid.
No seriously. Stop. Think. This is SO FUCKING STUPID.
Humans can live IN SPACE. We are NOT destroying ourselves. We are HYPER ADVANCED COCKROACHES. We will easily survive whatever damage we cause to the planet.
The problem with destroying the planet is not that weâre destroying humanity. What a stupid, egocentric take. The problem with destroying the planet IS THAT WEâRE DESTROYING THE PLANET.
âMass extinction? Eh who caresâ is a FUCKING STUPID TAKE and I have no clue why so many people here are okay with it. What the fuck is wrong with all of you? This is NOT OKAY. MASS EXTINCTIONS ARE NOT OKAY.
Is this a fucking psyop? What the fuck?
Well, survive yes. But self-sufficiency is a big problem. The world is nowadays so interconnected that even a problem in only one region can severely affect all of humanity (e.g. semiconductors from Taiwan). So yes, a collapse of our modern society is certainly possible.
Destroying the planet is not really a thing. Mass extinctions in the past were a big deal but at the same time: Earth recovered. We only have a big problem because the plants/animals we need might go extinct.
Obviously valuing nature and wildlife diversity in and of itself is good but it doesnât have any intrinsic value in regards to supporting society.
Destroying the planet is not really a thing
Also, can everyone please shut the fuck up with the âWell ACKSHUALLY, youâre not destroying the literal ball of rock and magma so youâre not destroying the planetâ. Fuck you, you know what it means.
Sorry, I meant âdestroy the planetâ as in lifeless/only single celled organisms.
And you can kind of see humanity as âjust another big asteroid impactâ. Nature will recover competeley over the next million years or so. Thatâs what I meant with mass extinctions being kind of inconsequential for the planet as a whole on geological time scales.
Obviously mass extinctions are also bad besides their effect on human society, I just meant that that is mostly a spiritual one thats hard to measure, about lost potential and eradicating a species. As a thought experiment, is eradicating a disease, a form of life, inherently negative? Mosquitoes? Do you agree that itâs a big achievement that we eradicated small pox? What if we eradicate all existing diseases?