This it the bottom so far you mean.
Judging from the comments, we can go lower.
It’s amazing that people are even questioning taking out Hamas… Do they actually not understand that the reason the children are in danger is because they have hesitated when Hamas has done this in the past - using the children as human shields?
What kind of absolute sociopath would trade the thousands of lives Hamas will take if they’re allowed to live, just because they use the world’s humanity against it?
When it costs one life to save millions and there is no choice because the evil Hamas has set this price, it must be paid.
Shame on Hamas for putting these children in danger. May they rot in hell for their horrifying, demonic and evil sin.
The problem is that Hamas is not just an organization, it’s also the ideology of resistance to the Israeli occupation. You can’t take out an ideology. Even if Hamas the organization is gone, another one will take its place.
The only way to take out such an organization is to eliminate the reason why it exists. It’s definitely not easy, and it takes a lot of negotiations and goodwill, making amends and getting over a lot of bad history. But waging war is achieving the exact opposite of that, and only creating the conditions for future conflicts.
The trouble is, the reason Hamas and similar groups exist it that Israel exists. Many people in Palestine, and also people in neighbouring countries and many Muslims who aren’t even directly involved, believe that the whole place should be a pure Muslim country. I’ve literally seen people protest for this on the streets here. How do you suggest that solution should be enforced?
They will not accept a country that has women and LGBTQ rights, music festivals, etc. in between them. They protested and attacked these targets for a reason for several decades now.
I just wish the people who wish for the reason Hamas exists to be gone would at least be honest about all the consequences it entails. Otherwise this is just a very comfortable position of moral high ground where people can claim they protect the victims but they won’t think any further.
Shame on Israel for treating a people the way they have for so long so that the only outcome could be Hamas.
If you torture an animal and it bites, who’s to blame? People like you have a very short term memory it seems, unwilling to look at how this situation was brought about.
You cannot treat people the way Israel has treated them and then get up in arms when you meet resistance.
People aren’t animals, though. They can take responsibility for their own decisions.
Also, where do you draw the line? You could take the same argument the other way around and claim Israel doesn’t actually commit war crimes. It’s because most of them are Jewish and they have been mass murdered multiple times throughout human history. They are now just fighting tooth and nail for having a safe place at least once in history.
It doesn’t work to be on one side if people want to resolve this conflict. Unless you literally want the other side to be completely annihilated.
They are now just fighting tooth and nail for having a safe place at least once in history.
Oh sure, Israel is just defending itself from an evil aggressor! It’s not imprisoning an entire people, robbing them of everything they have, taking over their land, routinely kidnapping and torturing their children, reducing cities to rubble, installing a system of apartheid, and ethnically cleansing the area.
Nope, none of that is happening and Hamas does what it does just because they are evil in nature.
Unless you literally want the other side to be completely annihilated.
If you look at what is happening and what the leadership in Israel routinely states, you’d understand that it is Israel that is annihilating Palestine. Instead you fall for sound bites and propaganda because you’re either too lazy or dishonest to figure out what is going on.
And if it turns out that the accusation Hamas was using the basement as a command post is true, is that the new bottom?
Using the hospital for anything other than helping people is a bottom. They are both trash entities.
Ehm, both have been killing for decades. Palestine consistently had about 10x the losses Israel had.