cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/8476122
Zed on Linux is out!
Every time I try a vim alternative, I get frustrated and just end up back with vim.
Might be neat. Might check it out. But devs really need to stop asking me to install things by curling a script and piping it into my shell. There are better ways to do this. Doing this leaves a massive possible attack surface.
No matter how they package it, running a binary downloaded from Internet has the same attack surface
You are right, except for one detail. Package managers almost always validate the packages using digital signatures, to avoid man-in-the-middle attacks. You don’t need to trust the network anymore. Shell scripts piped to a shell don’t have that protection. You still have to trust the developers and maintainers, though.
Agree.
Not at all a security expert here, but maybe doing it inside a distrobox could be a temporary fix?
Forget it, I just tried and it seems it gets installed in your home directory so using distrobox doesn’t change anything (apparently, but as I said I’m not an expert so feel free to correct me if I’m wrong).
However, I’ve seen they also have it available through a bunch of package managers like nix, arch and Fedora
built from the ground up in Rust with a GPU-accelerated renderer
I don’t want GPU-accelerated rendering, I want a renderer that has a solid 5 second lag, to make it look to anyone around like I type faster than 20 wpm.
Why is zed so popular? What am I missing? Looks like just any other editor…
It’s really fast, has nice vim keybindings and has the potential to be a great open source VSCode alternative.
I don’t use it yet since it doesn’t have a built in Python debugger but I’ve been watching it closely. I really want to switch to it someday soon
VSCode (or the base app used by it) is open source (see: VSCodium). It has a similar relationship to Chrome and its base Chromium, where assets and tweaks are added to brand the product. You may have been trying to say “a great open source, VSCode alternative” and I misunderstood. Just commenting to remove ambiguity.
I’m on the Neovim train and I’m not getting off at this junction.
But more high quality choices is a good thing.
I’m using Rider and considering to switch to something like Vim. Any recommendation for me on where to start?
I had multiple failed starts with (n)vim, always getting frustrated way before I had a usable setup, until I just used NvChad. It’s basically a preconfigured version, with all the plugins, keybinds,… you could probably want.
It gave me something usable right out of the box. I continued tinkering with it for almost two years before moving on to my completely custom configuration.
IMO the people that say you should start with bare (n)vim in order to learn everything from the ground up are delusional. There’s no reason you can’t learn all that stuff after you’ve actually experienced how nice the entire thing can be.
I’ll be using it with c# and unity. I don’t care about debuggers, or starting the project from the IDE. I imagine there are plugins that hook it up to the c# language server?
I’m planning to learn Rust, so I might also just get started with that plus nvChad. Then I keep using Rider for my daily work.
A couple of months ago I wrote up some instructions for someone that was trying to make the switch to neovim. They reported back that it was helpful.
Check it out:
https://lemmyverse.link/programming.dev/comment/9552694
Start by running vim and typing :vimtutor
. You might have to install the vimtutor package. Its a good way to learn. Once you’re through the vimtutor tutorial you should be good to go, you’ll get better over time. I second recommending neovim over original vim. The command is nvim
to start once installed.