51 points

AirBNB pisses me off, because if you’re claiming to be a BNB, then where is my breakfast?

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25 points

It’s like the Holy Roman Empire. It’s not an airline, nor is it a bed and breakfast.

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15 points

That’s the air part

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43 points

a) good for Barcelona

b) fuck airBNB

c) also, fuck airBNB

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15 points

A) B) n B)

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1 point
  • Thankyou for the help.
  • I tried the bullet list before and it didn’t seem to be working; it was probably me, though.
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41 points

Air BnB is destroying the housing market in my area. That said, it’s exposing a demand for something that doesn’t otherwise exist. In addition to hotels, people also want to be able to rent larger spaces, with a kitchen so they don’t have to eat out every night, and multiple bedrooms so the adults don’t have to go to bed at the same time as the kids. Hotel developers should be taking notes.

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18 points

You’re completely correct on the exposed demand issue. I would also add that in most cities (in the United States anyway) hotels can only exist in very specific corners of the city due to zoning, often in just three places: downtown (expensive!), the suburbs (so not even in city limits), and “motel alley” (which is usually an old highway in askeevy part of town lined with mid-20th century fleabag accommodations that are slowly being abandoned/bulldozed). For some cities this isn’t an issue, but in others it’s a problem for accessing the tourist attractions, especially if the tourists in question don’t have a rental car. Then there are the non-tourist visitors to consider: if you’re in a city to visit family, you’re probably going to want to stay as close to them as possible. Same with a lot of business travelers. This is a bit of a conundrum when the nearest hotel (or affordable/decent hotel) is a 30 minute drive away.

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8 points

It’s called an extended-stay hotel, they exist but unfortunately they’re not that common.

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3 points

They are also, guess what, as expensive as a hotel. What was airbnb? Cheap. In the end it does come down to the money because it used to be a big difference between some apartments offered on airbnb vs hotels. Nowadays this got smaller, since airbnb raised fees and whatnot.

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8 points

Tbh, tourism should be expensive. We should prioritize the basic needs of people such as a place to live before offering cheap luxuries.

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4 points

airbnb isnt cheap tho, now a days it costs about as much as a hotel and they have way less amenities.

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2 points

I haven’t had any issue finding those amenities in hotels in Europe (at least in Berlin, Munich, Madrid, and Málaga, which is not an exhaustive study by any means). I’ve seen a few that look to be entire small apartment buildings converted into hotels, which isn’t great for the local housing market, but all the ones I’ve stayed at were clearly built for that purpose. So that’s the good news, I guess.

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3 points

When I vacation in Europe I stay in apart-hotels that have space, kitchenettes, etc. Just stayed in one in Munich a week or two ago even.

They exist in Europe like most nice things that make sense do… not in the USA though. Our hotels suck, the only other option is airbnb of someone’s home which is often OVER equipped and sized for short stays.

We need an in between but I don’t see it being made due to our awful zoning law issues and if they were to exist they’ll likely be overpriced

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1 point

these are thing… there are hotels like that its not the most common but its not rare either.

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6 points

You’re right, they’re not the most common, and they’re typically far more expensive.

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Airbnb sometimes offers a good user experience but it’s not hard to understand that Airbnb is not benefiting the city’s population. And I really don’t mind going to a hotel. Actually I prefer it since I have a better idea of what to expect. Good for Barcelona, let the world follow their example!

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13 points

I think it can benefit in certain situations. Like when we traveled to a European country we stayed in an AirBnB that was being rented out while the family who lived there was in summer vacation. So they essentially got to subsidize their vacation with Airbnb.

As far as units that are permanently Airbnb style short term rentals though I agree. Terrible for the actual residents in the city.

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22 points

Good. That’s what hotels are for.

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AirBNB is legit more expensive than hotels now for far worse service. It’s a get rich quick scheme.

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8 points

It depends on the city really. I find that some cities hotels are just a way better value but other time air b and b can be good. Like for cabins and beach houses for example.

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9 points

Renting out cabins and beach houses makes way more sense, since those are typically places you wouldn’t live in full time. The rest of the short term housing rentals end up driving up the cost of living.

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Depends on the location and the number of people in your party. Sometimes it does work out cheaper to rent an apartment or even a house instead of several hotel rooms. Kitchen space is always a boon, I’m rarely impressed by overpriced restaurant fare and prefer to cook for myself when possible. It can also be helpful if you’re traveling with pets.

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