Your own fault for going to major tourist hot spots.
Goes to shittiest parts of country
Complains country is shitty
Can’t explain that.
If you come to America for your vacation and go to Detroit, that’s your own fault.
That comparison doesn’t really fly, Detroit isn’t really a tourist hotspot. Florida would fit the bill better
Or people complaining that Yellowstone is too crowded or NYC is too expensive.
There are a ton of great places here, and if everyone goes to the same place at the same time, it’ll be crowded. There are tons of great places to see here that don’t get clogged up with people in the summer.
Hey I visited America on vacation and went to Detroit as part of it. Went to a nice little gritty strip joint off 8 mile. I got my picture taken with a porn actress. We even managed to leave with our tires still on and no bullets to extract. 10/10.
Vacations should be about the experience.
Also most likely goes at the most crowded time for some reason.
Idk if I’m just lucky but even what are supposed to be super busy touristy things I’ve mostly been able to see among fairly chill/ no crowds. And this includes Rome, Venice, Jerusalem, Istanbul, Berlin, Amsterdam among others, and in most of these visits to their respective cultural/ architectural/historical hotspots.
Like literally just go in April or early October I guess. Or like at night. Something like this.
That just sounds like Faliraki or some similar hellhole full of your own countrymen. Try going five minutes or so out of town.
I was in Faliraki a few years ago and it was really nice. I was there in late October though, so there were only like 20 other tourists in town and all the penny arcades and tourist shops were already closed.
I’ll never understand why people fly to the south in the middle of the summer, when the weather is nice here anyway.
Anon is a retard for going to the tourist fly traps, in greece you gotta travel a bit before you get to the real good stuff
Same is true pretty much everywhere.
I’m in the US, and everyone seems to flock to Yellowstone, NYC, DC, and maybe SF. We have a lot of other really cool places, and you’d probably have a much better experience if you avoid the top 10 tourist destinations. For example:
- 63 national parks, and only 2-3 are international destinations
- thousands of state parks, and they’re basically completely missed by international travelers
- tons of fantastic beaches all across the south, no need to go to Hawaii or Miami to get some good beach time
For anything you want to see, I could point to a half dozen places that are way less crowded and would likely get you closer to the type of thing you’re looking for. I assume the same is true for any popular destination, so I go out of my way to try to find nuggets of cool stuff (e.g. when I went to BC, CA, we went to Lynn Canyon instead of Capilano Bridge, which was super gorgeous and not crowded at all). Waiting in lines sucks, so I’d rather go to the next best option and spend more quality time there.
It absolutely is, and the off-season is the time to go. I just don’t have patience for the summer tourist season. It takes twice as long to get anywhere, I feel self-conscious about taking too much time somewhere, and the awesome views are polluted by people milling about, asking for photos, or kids whining (I get it, I have kids).
The same goes for most popular parks. I’m in Utah, and I avoid Zion and Arches in the peak season, but both parks rock in the off-season. During tourist season, I go to the less popular parks.
The entire Upper Peninsula of Michigan is pretty awesome. The Soo Locks, the Marquette ore dock, Pictured Rocks, and a whole bunch of mine tours and shipping museums. Not to mention beautiful national and state parks. Brockway Mountain is truly an experience in the fall.
Does anybody come to Michigan from abroad for holiday? Or does everybody just conflate it with Detroit?
I’m from Washington state, and if anyone goes there, they visit Seattle and the Space Needle, Experience Music Project Chihuly glass museum, and Pike Place Market. For outdoor activities, they may go whale watching, visit the warf/sound, and maybe take a ferry to one if the islands to hike.
All of those places get really crowded in the summer, and locals largely don’t go. I’ve been to each of those places once (never actually gone up the Space Needle though).
There are a ton of other cool things to see and do there that aren’t nearly as crowded.
waiter spits into plate and I thank him
Oh man, OP didn’t spit back. Water gonna get spilled
That’s why I avoid vacations abroad like the plague. I absolutely loathe being around people, and people on vacation abroad tend to be the worst version of themselves. I’d much rather stay at home than deal with that.
Eh, you can do vacations and largely avoid people, if you do some research ahead of time.
For example, my SO and I visited their home country, and we avoided most of the tourist traps, and hit the one or two we wanted to see during off peak hours. In fact, our whole trip was right after the busy season, so we were able to have good weather w/o all the nonsense from tourists. We visited a national park out of state nearby my family at the start of the season (when weather is the most iffy), and we lucked out and had fantastic weather and almost no crowds (backup plan was to hang out with my family, and they ended up joining us).
The trick isn’t to avoid vacations abroad, the trick is to do them on your terms instead of whatever others expect. If you want to see France and hate crowds, don’t visit the Eiffel Tower or Versailles, go somewhere in the countryside and get a nice B&B and maybe time it w/ a local festival to enjoy local culture.
