Kim Jong-un has reportedly ordered that divorcing couples be sent to labour camps for up to six months, with women potentially facing longer sentences.

The North Korean leader has declared that ending a marriage demonstrates anti-socialist sympathies and warrants punishment.

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funny how authoritarians always find policy alignment, no matter how much the tankies tell you north korea is a worker’s paradise

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I’ve honestly never heard anyone describe North Korea as a worker’s paradise.

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Luckily we can’t see lemmygrad normally from .world

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oh good. stay off lemmy before the brain defects reach you

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Ditto.

Where are the tankies when you need them for once?!

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“reports Radio Free Asia (RFA).”

can we ban radio free asia sources pls, thank you.

If this was real why wouldn’t they just ban divorce?

Are we expected to believe you go to the divorce office and they’re like “okay, and once you sign the divorce papers, we’ll get you going off to the labor camps”

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After doing a sociological background check, I think the news article is true. NK is a hard place to get information from, but in that case, you establish whether something is plausible in a given society. I started my check from here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_Korea#Marriage_in_North_Korea

“As of the late 2010s, marriage rates in North Korea have been reported as very high (over 96% of adults aged 30+ are married), and divorce rates as very low (less than 1% of North Korean population is classified as separated or divorced according to official data).[7]”

Maintaining a 96% marriage rate and a 1% divorce rate is not possible without coercion. So there is no doubt that some kind of coercion is used to get people married and prevent them from divorcing in North Korea.

See also:

Arranged marriage is still popular in North Korea.[8]

See also: a long article about marriage and divorce in NK in the previous decades. Does not include mention of recent developments. Ends at the COVID-19 timepoint (2020), when divorces increased. Apparently, coercion existed then too, but was primarily economical:

The processing fee for divorce is as high as 80 percent of the average monthly salary of workers, so residents find it really difficult to divorce, realistically speaking. Also, those who seek a divorce for a second time should file a petition with a higher court. In most cases, alimony is not recognized for divorced women.

Also, they don’t recognize divorce by mutual agreement. To get a divorce over there, someone has to be at fault in the authorities’ eyes. And from being at fault to being punished - very short trip in that country.

Divorce by mutual consent isn’t recognized in the North, as opposed to South Korea.

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If one of the parties is at fault in all cases of divorce why are they both being punished?

This information makes it much more plausible, sure, but it still doesn’t prove anything.

Considering the source, i’d need actual evidence that this has been said by the party, any physical evidence of this at all is necessary in my eyes. Legal documents shouldn’t be that hard to comeby, the claim is that kim jong un himself said it, is there no recording of this? Why not?

Was this not on their news? Why not?

Considering this source often tells plausible lies, I don’t believe them without a shred of evidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BO83Ig-E8E

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/haircut-03262014163017.html

this is the level of lies that source spews out, this being somewhat plausible really just isn’t enough when we factor in the source knowingly lies regularly. To me that just means they did their due diligence to make the lie believable.

If the source regularly knowingly lies, plausibility just isn’t enough.

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This information makes it much more plausible, sure, but it still doesn’t prove anything.

Yes. Getting hard information from a very closed country requires more time. And I’m sure that does tempt people with inventing news about North Korea, so I understand your skepticism.

Over time, news tend to get confirmed or refuted, so in a few weeks or months, one should find out with a high degree of certainty.

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Are you saying it’s not true based solely on the source?

What if it is true? Then can we keep them around?

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RFA is expressly anti communist propaganda run by the USA government. Their source for this piece is “a guy told us”.

It’s hard to prove a negative, but I mean it does seem absolutely stupid.

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Yes, that source has been caught lying countless times, even if was true I wouldn’t trust this source, and they provided no evidence.

If it ends up being true, it’s a broken clock situation, and the source should STILL be banned.

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The only time RFA tells the truth is because they are lying twice

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Wow a free holiday to Ukraine for divorced couples? Dear leader is the most amazing and generous unlike those AmeriKKKan dogs.

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I had no idea it was that easy to ensure your citizens will never get married!

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Unmarried?? That’s a trip to the labor camps!

Married no kids?? That’s right labor camps.

Married, kids, no boys?? You better believe that’s labor camp.

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Are there punishments for remaining single?

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No idea 🤷

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Do you really think people will have a choice? Here’s your wife chosen for you by the Party. Do you marry her or are you an anti-socialist class traitor?

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Divorcees yearn for the mines

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