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You mean to tell me that going from the street to trial in less than a month, from what would normally be a single murder charge isn’t the normal way of things??

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He’s only made his plea. Yes, that part happens quickly.

EDIT: Look at the upvotes on the parent comment. Y’all are really dumb enough to think this man is going to trial right now.

It’s misinformation, it’s ignorance, it may even be a lie. Downvote this crap.

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thank you for having some sanity….
i’m pro luigi, anti health industrialization… but yes obviously the doj will charge you for shooting someone.
the terrorism charge is probably where the pressure went

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No, it’s not obvious. The DOJ rarely charges anybody with murder. It’s almost always charged under state law, in state courts. Sebastian Zapeta-Calil hasn’t been charged with a federal crime, and probably won’t be.

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Biden could pardon him

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And my cats could be appointed alternating empresses of Romania.

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Nah he’s not a white collar criminal who destroyed the lives of millions.

Biden might be willing to posthumously pardon Brian Thompson for his insider trading crimes though.

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Can he? Honest question. Can he pardon someone who hasnt actually been convicted of anything?

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I don’t see why not. Ford pardoned Nixon for things Nixon wasn’t convicted of.

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Yes, but accepting the pardon is an admission of guilt, which may have other consequences.

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accepting the pardon is an admission of guilt

Logically and in the eyes of public opinion? Most likely. Legally, though? Nope

You’re right about there being consequences, though: you can’t invoke your 5th amendment right against self-incrimination for a crime that you’ve been pardoned for.

So technically being pardoned for the federal terrorism charge COULD make it more difficult for him to defend against the other charges, but I’m pretty sure that not even a NYC prosecutor can argue that the murder charge is independent of it…

Moot point, though, since Joe Biden is as likely to pardon Luigi as he is to drop trou and smoke a joint with his ass during a WH press briefing.

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I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya!

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positively flabbergasted, dare I say

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That’s fine, I’m pressuring the neighborhood schizophrenics to directly pressure healthcare CEOs.

Pressure is fun, right health insurance leaders? It can make all sorts of fun things happen. Brian knows knew this, if only for a few seconds.

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I agree with you about CEO’s but please stop using schizophrenic people as a joke or prop.

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Right? They probably mean Dissociative Identity Disorder too.

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Idk usually that’s the case, but when I think “mentally ill in a way that’s susceptible to being pressured to kill rich people” I’m more inclined to think paranoid schizophrenics than did folks. Still shouldn’t use them as a joke like that.

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This reminds me of a neat history lesson:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-the-tragedy-at-buffalo

History doesnt repeat, but it certainly rhymes.

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.”

It wasnt Czolgosz or Mangione that sat at the reigns of a murder machine sanctioned by baron-owned-state monopoly of violence.

Goldman, for her part, had such a big heart for those driven to desperate acts.

Throughout her detention and after her release, Goldman steadfastly refused to condemn Czolgosz’s actions, standing virtually alone in doing so. Friends and supporters—including Berkman—urged her to quit his cause. But Goldman defended Czolgosz as a “supersensitive being” and chastised other anarchists for abandoning him.[75] She was vilified in the press as the “high priestess of anarchy”,[76] while many newspapers declared the anarchist movement responsible for the murder.[77] In the wake of these events, socialism gained support over anarchism among US radicals. McKinley’s successor, Theodore Roosevelt, declared his intent to crack down “not only against anarchists, but against all active and passive sympathizers with anarchists”.[78]

Berkman wasnt shit. Emma was a real one

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Who are these leaders? Names? Addresses?

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