People consider vegans on Lemmy as too preachy. Even in vegan communities here, mods have to remove soooo many inappropriate comments (I read a few of these and they keep getting removed for good reasons). Comments that suggest going vegan on posts about animal abuse are downvoted.

At the same time, whenever there is something about Windows or Chromium based browsers, people here are doing exactly the same. “Just use Linux/Firefox/whatever”.

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Go vegan.

Use FOSS.

Use public transport.

Reject flying.

Punch Nazis.

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Tone. Use Firefox/Linux/whatever posts also get downvoted when they are to preachy.

Wrong: “If you use Windows/eat meat you are evil, repent now !!11! There are no reasons for any person to be doing it, if you don’t understand that you are a monster as well.”

Right: "I/my company/my dog were using Windows/eating meat and it’s not all bad but the negatives outweight the positives. That’s why I switched to Linux/not eating meat. If anyone else wants to try this is a good way to start: … "

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Yup. This is not a rule, of course, and is just my humble observation, but vegans tend to be really agressive about that stuff. You will never be able to propagate your ideas if you pressure people right from the start of the conversation.

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You’re right but in my experience on Lemmy so far, it need way more for Firefox or Linux comments to be considered preachy while pointing out facts like “producing meat leads to animal abuse” is considered too preachy.

I’m not really biased in this since I’m biased towards both equally. Just wondering why everything mentioning veganism in any way on Lemmy (like this post) keeps getting downvoted.

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This is not exclusive to Lemmy, this happens the same way in real life - when you critique their food choice people tend to get in the defensive. This happens whether it’s about their health, ecology or ethics and of course it gets worse when you are implying that their choices hurt others.

Of course this is not exclusive to food. Everything that is seen as part of your identity leads to this defensive reaction (see politics, sports teams etc.) and they double down on their current stance. I bet vegans would be a LOT more successful if they would be more empathetic toward non-vegans and would approach this topic more tactically.

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Often times it’s no different than someone preaching about religion. “You’re going to burn in hell if you don’t accept Jesus into your heart!” isn’t too much different than “you’re a murderer if you eat meat!”

It just comes across as self-righteous posturing.

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It’s not my experience that anyone mentioning veganism ends with a negative score.

How do you know you’re not just encountering sampling error? Maybe you’re in different communities than where I’m seeing veganism discussed.

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Better: Bless the meat, damn the skin, open your kisser and cram it in.

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Leviticus in a nutshell

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With “use Firefox” people tend to interpret as “try this thing instead, it’s better or will do the thing you’re looking to do”

With “go vegan” people tend to interpret it as “you’re doing something wrong and need to change your habits”.

Essentially, one is seen as a suggestion and the other an attack.

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People don’t really love chrome, but they do love meat. Go vegan suggests we get rid of something we love.

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Because meat tastes good, and browsers don’t taste like anything?

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You are in the fedi, a fringe social space generally uses by IT focused people. People love their linux here because these instances are probably all hosted on Linux. People are here because they left traditional social media.

I’m not saying veganism isn’t welcome here. You just have a ton of tech people here. If reddit tried to ban vegans instead of punch advertising down people’s throats you would have more vegans instead of people who use Firefox.

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