7 points

ZooX sounds like a site id rather not visit thanks

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I’m not impressed until it can legally drive while it is snowing.

Driving in mostly hot regions on predefined paths is not that impressive.

But you know what fully automated system you could make in any weather? Trains.

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I can’t take a train almost anywhere I drive. Think they’ll open a spur to:

  • The swamp down the road
  • My camp in BFE
  • Anywhere on the local creeks and rivers

And can I bring a truck bed full of kayaks and gear? Oh, I also haul home shitloads of trash I find. Is that allowed on trains?

Trains are the best for moving a human body, carrying nothing, from one population center to another. And that’s it.

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And can I bring a truck bed full of kayaks and gear?

Not in a robotaxi

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2 points

Not with that attitude

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I get your point, but your being a useless ass about it.

For us that do outdoor sports we still will.need a car, but not having to use it to commute to work or go grocery shopping would be a wonderful thing

Also the better transit is the fewer people you have to shard the road with when you do need to use your car.

It’s not all or nothing.

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You shop on a train ride? Don’t know about you, but I bring home more than 4 humans can carry.

We obviously need train service between metro areas, and train service within large areas. But America is wired for individual transportation. Undoing that has a monstrous energy impact to consider, better, but it ain’t free.

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I have tracks near my house that I could take to work, if they bothered to extend the line. There are some parts that need repair, but the land exists and the rails are largely unused for freight and mostly used to store extra cars. It goes right through most of the city centers in my area, and a large company has already promised to create a ton of jobs if the line is built. Oh, and there’s crazy congestion on the highway that runs parallel to these tracks, and these tracks go right next to two professional sports stadiums.

So when are they starting construction? Not until 2050 at the earliest… Why? A handful of people in one small area of the line oppose it…

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2 points

I love how all the trains stop directly in front of my home

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32 points

I wouldn’t count on Tesla getting anything working properly to market any time soon.

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It doesn’t need to work safely to be shoved out onto the roads. Especially when that’s what you’ve bought a presidency for…

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So glad we are all unwilling participants in this great experiment. Pedestrians will be blamed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time when Tesla cans kill them.

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2 points

They’re a joke in the industry.

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11 points

Seriously, I wouldn’t even trust a self-driving Tesla if it was in a small, geo-fenced area.

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5 points

The current state of FSD is that it’s a really nice driver aid, but it’s pretty far from being able to do anything beyond level 3

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29 points

Uber / Lyft pay their drivers so poorly and continue to abuse US tipping culture so badly that drivers have to work crazy hours for any reasonable pay. This is now a hazard as it’s not uncommon to find drivers starting to fall asleep at the wheel. I welcome this technology but hope some better players emerge than these usual scumbags.

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Zoox’s position is unfortunate because they basically had to sell themselves five years ago in order to keep operating. It takes extremely deep pockets to get this cutting-edge technology on the road while successfully navigating the winding roads of regulations and public trust.

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23 points

It’s gonna take a lot more data and trust building to convince me to get in an autonomous piloted vehicle. After working in an industry that does autonomous driving and seeing some of it for myself, i don’t trust it at all.

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Which industry?

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Heavy duty truck industry

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Whose terrible self-driving stack?

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There’s a lot more issues that are inherent to this that I’m against making this mainstream. E.g. if these cars get special road status, will it be maintenance and changes (humans can read signs)? If there will be competition, will the cars then drive empty near places to shorten waiting times? Will it drive these companies to push propaganda to build cities for cars again (i.e. inventing “Jaywalking”, round 2)?

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