I want to host a Vaultwarden (or Bitwarden if necessary) instance, but it keeps asking for a domain and a SSL certificate. I dont own a domain and dont want to enable port forwarding on my router to expose it to the outside.

Is it possible to host a instance only internally and access it via the IP or a domain set on my local DNS? How about SSL is it possible and/or necessary?

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Buy an xyz domain for like $1. If you choose a domain that just 9 random numbers its super cheap.

So something like 123456789.xyz

Then setup a SWAG container with DNS challenge. Join vaultwarden into the same docker network as SWAG, then add an entry to your router to point to vaultwarden using a subdomain.

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It’s good to use SSL even if you don’t plan to use it externally. At some point you may change your mind, or you may need to access it via VPN and there may be one hop between your browser and the VPN that will then be in plain text. Plus, not all devices are trustworthy anymore. An Android or iPhone device might have “malware” (including from reputable companies like Google trying to track you for ad purposes but recording unsecured http traffic to do it.) Or a frienday bring a bad device over and connect to your wifi and inadvertently capture that traffic. Lots of ways for internal traffic to be spied on.

Google: “how to create self signed certificate authority on <your workstation OS>”

And if that article doesn’t have it, google: “how to create a domain certificate from a self signed certificate authority”.

It doesn’t have to be a valid external domain, just use “.internal” as the top level domain which is reserved for this kind of thing, like “vaultwarden.internal”. You can also just use IP addresses in the certificate, but I find that less desirable.

Then google: "how to add a trusted certificate authority on <all your OS’s of all internal devices>”. Depending on what web browser you use, you may need to add it there as well. Once the certificate authority is trusted by your devices and browsers, then the domain certificate created by that CA will be as well.

You can set your expiration dates to be far in the future if you want, to avoid having to create new ones often, but be sure to document how just so in 5 or 10 years or so, if it’s still that way, you’ll know how to update them.

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You can use any domain you like. I personally have an actual domain that I only use inside my network. This way I can get SSL certs from Let’s Encrypt using the DNS challenge which doesn’t require any ports being opened. You can use self signed certs but I would strongly suggest using certs from the likes of Let’s Encrypt.

Here are 2 pages on this subject

https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden/wiki/Private-CA-and-self-signed-certs-that-work-with-Chrome

https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden/wiki/Enabling-HTTPS

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I know the desktop, and mobile apps work without https, however I can’t remember if you can set it up via those apps?

I ran vaultwarden for a couple of years without q certificate, I just couldn’t log into my instance via the browser.

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I did saw You could also use Tailscale and use their internal signed certificates. Then you can access it both internally and remotly over Tailscale with SSL.

Personally I own a domain for years and just use it.

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