116 points

Decent first step, but it’s going to take an actual investment in making parenthood desirable.

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Parenthood is already desirable. There’s a biological drive and social conditioning to desire it for most people. The disincentives have just become overwhelming. Children take a hell of a lot of resources. Every aspect of modern society has drained all the time, money, energy, emotional resiliance, social support, etc that people need.

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39 points

Also the future is bleak in the poly-crisis.

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1 point

Did you watch the new Tom Nicholas video, by chance?

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26 points

I’m logically aware that’s the case for other people, but I find it perplexing why often times. I was sterilized in my mid 20s, and I haven’t ever regretted it.

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11 points

Same. I suspect fomo. I experience that for other things but I never bought that kids thing.

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6 points

Meh

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2 points

There are many other social factors that make parenthood undesirable in Japan that this does not address.

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108 points

Why is it framed like it’s something extreme?

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15 points

I read it as snark/sarcasm. Like they are adding something that already should be.

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101 points

Capitalism literally has failed the human race

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49 points

Always has.

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1 point

Who wants to have kids in a place where you’re expected to work 18 hours a day?

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86 points

Daycare/Kindergarten is already free across the country for all children starting at 3 years old.

All child healthcare is also free after a prefecture-set monthly premium (usually about 1000 yen).

This policy announcement is specifically about making the 0-3 year old gap free.

Honestly I’d rather just see the government pay more into the shakai hoken (the national insurance that pays for mother/father leave) so people can take more time off from work early on in the kids’ lives.

Making it easier for parents to go back to work instead of focusing what’s good for children and parents seems par for the course.

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The only solution is to make childcare paid i.e. every single person that has a child gets a stipend worth a full time job.

Because it is a full time job.

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6 points

Daycare/Kindergarten is already free across the country for all children starting at 3 years old.

My information might be biased towards the greater Kanto area (Tokyo/Yokohama), but I’m not aware of anybody paying less then 20000 Yen (a little over $100 USD I guess) per month per child for a place in a public daycare (can be more than double, depending on the area/daycare, and much more for private ones).

It’s much more complicated, though. You can receive various support money from the state/prefecture/city, but it’s usually less than what you have to pay. And you’re not guaranteed a place, and the waiting list cam be long (especially in highly populated areas in Tokyo).

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I’m not sure why your friends are paying that… Most cities in Saitama, Chiba, and the 23 wards at least I know that the 学費 was set as 無償化.

There are some instances where you don’t qualify for free school if you make too much money. (Or it could just be they didn’t have a good guide at the city office to walk them through the maze of beaurocracy)

Also 23 wards and most of the cities in Saitama and Chiba have daycare and kindergarten entry that’s points based(the larger cities have more kids than daycare spots, which is my favorite bit of irony about the Japanese birthrate problems), the more points you have (points based on need, like are you a single mother, both parents working full time etc.)

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48 points

Wait until they will discover affordable housing thing.

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21 points

Wait until you find out it is normal to tip your landlord there

https://www.interlinkjapan.com/blog/renting/key-money

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6 points

Usually the newer buildings owned by larger real estate groups don’t do they kept money thing anymore.

I’ve only really seen it in buildings owned by small real estate concerns and old dudes.

It’s luckily getting kind of pushed out as a normal thing, just slowly.

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4 points

Only once in my life have I got my damage deposit back. That is tipping the landlord a lot of money. The time I got it back was in a terrible situation and I had leverage over the parasite.

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1 point

They also have security deposits on top of that as well

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21 points

Housing in Tokyo is known for being relatively affordable, actually.

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21 points

ya it’s funny when you watch some videos about “small apartments” in tokyo and only to realize they are still more cheaper and spacious than some NA options in big cities.

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less expensive more expansive

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8 points

Not in Tokyo, but farther out in Tokyo’s residential cities (outside the 23 wards like Chiba and Saitama)

It’s even cheaper the farther you get from train stations. There’s a 30 minute walk “cliff” where residential land prices plummet when you’re more than 30 minutes walk away from a train station.

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If I lived in Tokyo, though, I certainly wouldn’t want to be a 30+ minute walk from a train station. That makes leaving home a pretty big task.

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17 points

Housing is pretty affordable in Japan since housing in Japan is not an investment, it depreciates like a car (only the land has value, the house ontop of it has literally negative value since it’s assumed anyone will want to bulldoze it), and their lax zoning allows for continual densification to happen.

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