People keep parroting this statement. I’m so confused because it does not hold up to any scrutiny.
If you think for 5 seconds, school shooters aren’t charged with the death penalty because they overwhelmingly kill themselves or die during the shooting. They are also usually children, which might get them more lenient sentences.
This type of surface level logic just makes the supporting side look bad. There are far better comparisons to draw from
Also didn’t NY State abolish the death penalty? Or can he be charged with a federal crime to override that?
Lol, walk me to the door on this one:
So you are arguing that because the majority of people that commit this horrific crime are so encumbered by depravity that they kill themselves to avoid facing justice or are too SYMPATHETICALLY VULNERABLE, the proportion of shooters that ever face justice is already very low? Even accepting your argument (assuming that you believe school shooters who face justice are sentenced appropriately), we should see nearly every shooter who faces justice getting the death penalty…
But we don’t. You would be hard-pressed to find any references to school shooters that get sentenced with the death penalty because of how infrequent it is - child or not 🙄.
My man, get some fucking perspective. How did you put it, surface level logic? You know a lot about that, eh?
we should see nearly every shooter who faces justice getting the death penalty
I’m not sure what you mean by this, is this what you believe? I should add that the death penalty is rare to end up being sentenced and that it isn’t justified in every case as well.
I’m saying that the death penalty is already rare, then you need to be at least 18, you need to survive the shooting, and then you need to have a jury mostly unanimously agree to sentence you
Also it’s not like Mangione has been sentenced with the death penalty, these articles are reacting to the possibility of facing charges that could lead to the death penalty, which has been applicable for any other first-degree murder cases, for example killing a single person during a bank robbery
I’m just saying that the comparison is pointless. Complain about him receiving federal charges unusually, sure. But doing this “whataboutism” and referencing school shooters vs the UHC shooter is not well-founded
The part you cut out gives the context you are asking for.
I’m not sure what you mean by this, is this what you believe?
Words are hard. I get it. Accepting your argument and assuming you stand behind it… Yes. In your hypothetical world, yes, I do. Was that not your point??? That shooters don’t get perceived as receiving appropriate justice because they die or are ineligible??? is this what you believe?
the death penalty is rare
No shit Sherlock. What do you think the point of the OC was???
The Justice Department
The Just Us Department
I pledge a grievance to the flag and blah blah blah with liberty for just us not all
If they kill him, this is it.
The January 6th insurrection of 2020 was orchestrated and led by Donald Trump. Several nobodies have been charged and imprisoned over their miniscule contributions to the attack on our government. But the ringleader, the orchestrator, the figurehead behind it all faced no charges, no consequences, and was just reappointed to the highest office in the land. We don’t need Luigi to see that there is no justice inherent in the system. Justice is blind (to the misdeeds of the wealthy).
So you’re saying Luigi’s attorney should build his case around Luigi’s massive wealth? /joke
I’m sure they will. But there’s an enormous gulf between people who have millions of dollars, and people who represent multi-billion dollar corporations. The difference between a million and a billion dollars is basically about a billion dollars.
It’s a bit absurd to me to compare the charges to the end result.
What are some examples of school shooters in a capital punishment state (or who were charged federally) whose prosecutors did not try to pursue a death sentence?
Dylann roof, though not a school shooter exactly, was charged federally and is gonna be executed
