The article seems to be shittily written in my opinion but I figure if you watch the video (about a minute) it will get the point across.

My question lies in, do you think this will benefit the health of the people moving forward, or do you fear it being weaponized to endorse or threaten companies to comply with the mention of Kennedy being tied to its future as mentioned in the end of the article

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Bad nutrition both in the comments and the FDA. :-\

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Care to elaborate on what you are referencing?

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Not subsidizing corn would be a good start. Why is HFCS shit cheaper than vegetables? Rhetorical question.

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OP, please reword title of your post to be an open-ended question.

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Ah, I just clicked the copy button as I thought it was one of the communities that required the title to match the articles title. (Jerboa doesn’t show community rules on the side). Sorry about that

Edit: done

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I know I’m an awful pedant who doesn’t wurd gud either half the time, but you meant to say populace not populous in the title. Hope you don’t mind me pointing it out :-)

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Haha thanks. Nah I added that part in to make it fit the community rules I violated by accident. Thanks for the heads up.

Constructive critiques are always good in my book. (Wish I always kept that demeanor)

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This is a good try, but no I don’t see it helping. Those of us who can afford healthier choices already do so.

My simplification is that most people fall into one of these scenarios

  • just need the cheapest, possibly emphasize comfort food - doesn’t matter what’s healthy if it’s not in your budget
  • proportions and quantity. This won’t help
  • prepared food, whether frozen or restaurant, is a disaster.

I fall in to the second camp. I generally know what’s healthy and try to get it, but I don’t succeed with portion control or proportions. If the wrong things still dominate your plate, and your plate is too full, it doesn’t matter if some things have a healthy symbol.

I have no idea how to fix people like me, but for the first scenario I really believe we need a financial incentive. Back in the old days you ate a lot of vegetables because what came out of your garden was the cheapest food. Now thanks partly to government subsidies, corn syrup is both the cheapest food, and appeals to our evolutionary desire for sweetness. Let’s start by redirecting those subsidies to support a healthier food supply, but yeah I think we’re going to need a vice tax

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  • proportions and quantity. This won’t help

If we use less high-fructose corn syrup then it will help since fructose delays your body’s feeling of satiation.

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I agree with most of your post except the the first 2 sentences.

We don’t know what we don’t know. You assume we already know what the healthy options are. But with 50 years of education propping up a food pyramid that was developed as a marketing tool by kellogs we don’t actually know what’s best for us.

We think grains & cereals are the best. These along with sugars have the highest caloric value. It makes absolute sense to eat these if food is scarce and difficult to get as they provide the best bang for buck.

But in modern society where food is easy to get grains and carbs aren’t good.

So reeducating everyone using the understanding science has developed oner the last 50 yrs is hugely important. We’ve been feeding ourselves based on misinformation.

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So are my cheerios healthy? They not only make that claim on the box but I was raised with that knowledge all my life, as were my parents. And it is oats, and does have what used to be a decent amount of fiber. And I eat it with yogurt and fruit. Yet it’s another carb, and has much less fiber, vitamins, protein than many modern breakfast cereal.

Are my eggs healthy? Or do they raise cholesterol? Or am I likely to cook them with less healthy choices? Is my toast more carbs than cereal or less? More fiber or less? Is butter bad or good this week? What if I pair with sausage or bacon?

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And it will get reversed in a month…already heard Trumpicans calling it “woke”.

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Sorry, trail mix isn’t healthy.

And saturated fats can be. The whole thing against sat fats is wrong, and was proven so by 1994.

The FDA is full of shit on this.

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From what I could find, the whole “saturated fats are healthy actually” and the whole “seed oils are bad” and “polyunsaturated fats are not good actually” are things originating from meat and animal products lobbying, and recently popularized by the Joe Rogan podcast when he had a self-identified carnivore on? Or something?

Basically, it seems to be yet another manufactured culture war shit by the right filled with misinformation and disinformation that goes against the science. At this point I feel like anything that gets championed by the right needs to be very heavily examined for truthfulness.

Also, expect a lot lot more of this after the Trump administration takes over. Be skeptical of people skeptical of seed oils and polyunsaturated fats. Be skeptical of people glorifying meat and butter and saturated fats.

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There was a metaanalysis paper that suggested that saturated fats alone were not highly correlated with heart disease.

Same paper recommend a high fiber diet over a high carb or high protein diet. Which tracks tbh

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Saturated fats are not good actually. That’s a lie funded by dairy industry.

And trail mix (with nuts and whole grains and fruit) is in fact healthy.

The overwhelming majority of Americans eat nowhere close to the bare minimum recommended amount of fiber. Guess which one has lots of fiber? And is also full of minerals not found in many other foods

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Yet there is evidence to suggest dairy fat has a different effect than other animal derived fats, and there is certainly plausible deniability.

This this may be big dairy propaganda, the overriding fact is that every time we’ve been wrong with the health impact of fats, it’s been treating them as if they were one thing with one effect. Fats are a huge family of chemicals that are both necessary for life and have both positive and negative effects in quantity. It’s always more complex than we think, and studies of eating habits in humans over long periods are next to impossible.

First they were calorie dense and I was fat …. But fats are a basic building block for my entire body and help me feel full. Then they raised cholesterol, but some lowered cholesterol ….

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Doesn’t bacon have a lot of fiber ?

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They’ve always been behind the times. If you’re old enough you’ll remember the cholesterol scare. They apparently hadn’t learned the different types of cholesterol yet. This is from my youth.

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To be fair regulation will always trail research

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Damn librulz always tryna take my trans fats!

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I just don’t put fats on any sort of pedestal.

They’re just part of cooking, a means to an end. Excess is the enemy of any form of health, just have a balance.

No steak cooked in butter will be healthier than broccoli boiled in it.

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First, they came for frogs and made them gay, and I didn’t speak up for I’m not a frog.

Then they came for my fats and made them trans.

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Ooh ohh, let me play ….

I didn’t speak up because I’m not a French fry

Then they came for my weekly paycheck and made it bi

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