NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his party will bring forward a motion of non-confidence to bring down the Trudeau government in the next sitting of the House of Commons.

“The Liberals don’t deserve another chance,” Singh wrote in a letter on Friday. “That’s why the NDP will vote to bring this government down.”

14 points

I guess it’s PP time…

permalink
report
reply
18 points

Yeah, WTF is he thinking? At least wait until October after we’ve had a chance to put out the Trump fire a bit.

Hopefully it’s a bluff to get Trudeau to resign, but that’s not really the typical NDP MO.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points
*

I hope so too but it doesn’t really seem like a smart move since it’d make their threats seem empty (though actually going through with this isn’t smart either…)

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Well, memories tend to be short in politics, and even then it’s only credibility-damaging if it gets called. If it was the conservatives I’d pretty much just assume it’s a bluff.

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

WTF is he thinking?

For better or worse, he’s probably reached the point where he thinks they need to cut all remaining ties to the Liberals, and not be seen as propping them up, formally or otherwise.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

With the Conservatives 20 points ahead in polls, it’s definitely for worse.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

And that’s worth a PP government? IMO he’s lost the plot if that’s his entire line of thinking.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

WTF is he thinking?

“The Bloc will let me do some performative grand standing. I hope.”

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Yeah, WTF is he thinking? At least wait until October after we’ve had a chance to put out the Trump fire a bit.

Could it be thay he hopes the conservatives will take the fall for Trump’s chaos and be out of power quicker? Thats the only other angle Im seeing here.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

That would be a galaxy brain 4D chess move. And pretty edgy honestly - that’s a lot of damage done just for the sake of political points.

I actually lean towards less-strategic, lower-pragmatism answers for this particular party. They have a reputation for blind partisanship.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points
*

We’re doomed. Probably.

permalink
report
reply
7 points

Yup, and gov is in vacation until Jan 27th, so when they wil go back to work, Trump in its first week may have already destroyed a couple of things here and there in our economy

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Actually, that’s a good thing. Parliament blow up before he arrives. The government itself will continue to operate.

Thanks, I thought they were coming back early January and was worried.

permalink
report
parent
reply
32 points

Can this wait until Feb 1? Give Canadians a bit more of a chance to see the US get fucked first.

permalink
report
reply
21 points

Parliament doesn’t sit until Jan 26, so it won’t happen before then.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points
*

First sitting on the 27th, to be exact. Source.

Yeah, I’m panicking a lot less now. And depending on the exact rules JT could prorogue it even further.

Somebody in the media mentioned a Liberal leadership election; if he goes that way I’ll be “kalm” again.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

A Liberal leadership convention would require ~4-5 months. The Liberals would name an interim leader elected by caucus if JT steps down.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

Get ready for one of the ugliest campaigns in living memory.

permalink
report
reply
23 points

“The Liberals don’t deserve another chance,”

And Conservatives shouldn’t even get a chance, yet Singh is handing them power on a silver plate.

Burning down the country and democracy in the West “to own the Libs” sounds like a plan we may never recover from.

permalink
report
reply
19 points
*

The Conservatives will win either way. There’s nothing in the next 10 months that would prevent the Conservatives from winning short of PP beating up children.

Voting no confidence now allows the NDP to viably compete for seats like Ottawa Centre where the liberals are weak and rebuild their influence and standing in the house. I don’t see why it’s the duty of every left-leaning party to prop up the Liberals as the natural governing party. Waiting 10 months isn’t going to cause the NDP to sweep into government, it might at best just delay the inevitable if they’re lucky, but more likely delaying will catastrophically wipe out their party by making them look like Liberal stage props.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

It’s about optics.

Canada is one of the last few full democracies out there, and seeing how the United States has already failed, to give up and surrender sends a strong message to other nations that democracy just doesn’t work.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

So you’re saying that if a viable parliamentary democracy is functioning as intended, it has failed?

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Its not giving up and surrendering for the NDP to not support thr liberals. Unconditionally supporting them no matter what because of fear of the conservatives would be surrendering.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

I don’t see why it’s the duty of every left-leaning party to prop up the Liberals as the natural governing party.

It’s the third party fallacy all over again.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Maybe Turdeau should have fucking followed through on election reform like he promised then.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
*

There is no fallacy. It’s a solid split between NDP and Liberals. And that’s really being propped up by the East. In the West it’s Conservative vs NDP.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Canada

!canada@lemmy.ca

Create post

What’s going on Canada?



Related Communities


🍁 Meta

🗺️ Provinces / Territories

🏙️ Cities / Local Communities

Sorted alphabetically by city name.


🏒 Sports

Hockey

Football (NFL): incomplete

Football (CFL): incomplete

Baseball

Basketball

Soccer


💻 Schools / Universities

Sorted by province, then by total full-time enrolment.


💵 Finance, Shopping, Sales

🗣️ Politics

🍁 Social / Culture

Rules

Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage: lemmy.ca


Community stats

  • 3.5K

    Monthly active users

  • 1.4K

    Posts

  • 4.9K

    Comments

Community moderators