Data from Google Trends noted search requests around the website builder boomed in October 2024, especially on October 8, where it reached a peak score of 100.

The spike in interest signals a shift in user behavior, indicating an active search for options which align more closely with user expectations around performance, control, and transparency.

24 points

Yes! Finally the world can maybe move on from PHP!

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Huuuurrrr duuuuurrr PHP bad duuuurrrrr

Very mature opinion rit there

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PHP 7 or 8 + Laravel is fine

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16 points

PHP 8 is actually really good. Think last time I was angry at PHP was pre 7.4 PHP

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3 points

Have they stopped using every naming convention there is (including some from other planets) in their function names?

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I don’t see why I should care. In 2001, your choices for backend webdev were basically PHP, Perl, Python, or Java. Now we have a dozen languages competing for the top spot. Elixir is becoming a personal favorite, but I don’t see why I should bother with PHP if I don’t already have a legacy platform in it.

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8 points

Huh? PHP wasn’t the issue

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It is. They need to move to a long running application base and they are not doing it.

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42 points

Man baby and WordPress.com CEO apparently forced this on the open-source community.

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Billionaire power is corrosive to maturity; you can make everyone do what you want, so why find common ground or compromise when you can just throw a shitfit and demand that people agree that pineapple is tasty?

Just think, they could’ve spent this energy making WordPress not suck for Kubernetes deployments instead, but that’s fine, we can settle for being told what to think and feel instead.

🤡

Can’t wait for Google to add a required login checkbox that says “I accept that Jesus Christ is the one true Lord and Savior”…

And I’m being downvoted. Cute.

Keep em coming, kids. Nothing I’ve said is wrong.

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7 points

Is this real?

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15 points

If only there was some way to find out. I guess we’ll never know.

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5 points

Thanks 🙏

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I looked at that, and thought “ha, that is a funny and obviously fake screenshot of a headline, created to ridicule photomatt for being petty in his fight with his company’s biggest competitor”.

Then, after closing this tab I did a double take and thought: maybe it’s actually real?

And, it turns out, yeah, he really actually did that (after a court injunction required them to remove the checkbox which required users to pledge that they were “not affiliated with WP Engine in any way, financially or otherwise”):

😂

he's not wrong, though

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😂🙏🏻 I love my Pizza Hawaii 🥰

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5 points

Canada’s best invention since the telephone

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Sorry, i’m already partial to banana-mascarpone pizza.

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1 point

Tell me more, I’m a glutton for punishment.

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Afraid you have to look elsewhere, this is a sweet-salty treat. Use some mild cheese, like Sprintz.

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The point of free software is that it doesn’t have owners and you (individually or collectively) can just create an “alternative” yourself by forking it if you disagree with anything its maintainers do.

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Yet, wordpress relies on a defacto central store for plugins, where properties (along with the userbases) of private companies can be taken over by Matt Mullenweg.

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That definitely sounds like a problem. I am not familiar enough with WordPress, is that store not FOSS or are the plugins not or what is going on?

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The plugin was an open source, but commercial product. It was forked and its store page was taken over by wordpress.org which unilaterally controls this store. Plugin updates were redirected to the fork, so essentially all users (bar the ones on wp engine, ironically) were stolen. Also, many sites were broken overnight by this move.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/12/24268637/wordpress-org-matt-mullenweg-acf-fork-secure-custom-fields-wp-engine

It’s a jarring situation, and frankly, I think it goes beyond the CEO being an asshat (he surely is). But I think this whole story shows signs of a mental illness.

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it is not about wp engine. wordpress has just gotten really shit. gutenberg forced onto users eventhough it is the worst rated plugin in history. connect to wordpress,woocommerce,elementor,yoast so they also have a store to sell you shit with a subscripton. woocommerce pdf slip plugin…4$/month on the woostore…

enshittification has won this game.

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eventhough

You can leave the space in. It’s okay.

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wordpress has just gotten really shit. gutenberg forced onto users eventhough it is the worst rated plugin in history

meh I make entire sites with gutenberg, nothing was forced on me cuz I could have used (yuk) elementor… I prefer not to

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Is there a better alternative though?

I was pretty disappointed at the options for a FOSS CMS when I last looked a year or so ago. Ghost looked good but is held back by the lack of a genuine plugin system.

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If I were building a larger site, I’d probably use Drupal.

It’s a bit of a departure from the “blogware” mindset though. You’re not managing “posts” and “static pages”. You’re managing stuff. …Which can manifest itself as pages or posts. Different kinds of content, different kinds of fields. Blogware gets hacky if you are posting anything but pages and posts, but in Drupal, every type of content is equally tweakable.

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2 points

Just learn HTML?

/s

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1 point

Depends on what you want. A one-size-fits-all? Hopefully not.

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6 points

WordPress itself isn’t a problem. Leach away my FOSS fans. Heck, customization up the wazoo. For a developer, it’s really really easy to make it your own. A competent developer can be taught WordPress CMS and understand what’s under the hood within a few weeks.

Contributing back to WordPress? Getting harder and harder with Matt being the biggest barrier.

It’s becoming one of those scenarios like Apple, Microsoft, Google, and Amazon. Fuck those companies. But I’ll build apps on your platform and play by your stupid ass rules to earn a living while also giving you the finger.

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9 points

Drupal has been the main competitor for decades, but the biggest difference is that it’s not blog-style with a timeline of posts, it’s nodes and categories.

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There’s a fork of Wordpress which still has the old editor, which looks fine to me. I don’t know anything about the people behind it though, and haven’t yet tried it myself.

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A block editor being built into wordpress was inevitable and long overdue in fact, and they let elementor steal most of them market while they shuffled their feet on the issue

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https://www.classicpress.net/
It’s pretty solid.

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1 point

is Zope/Plone still a thing?

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I moved to a static site generator, Hugo in this case, because I felt that WordPress was too much for a simple website with some articles.

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