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Don’t worry, cheaper solar panels, electric cars and entrepreneurs will save humanity. And by humanity I mean a specific share of the world’s developed nations. Discourse on this frustrates me to an unhealthy degree.

If you promote techno-fetishism laden, borderline tech-bro driven or shitass bill gates financed media, please reply so I may wish upon your remaining bloodline an everlasting mildly inconvenient curse.

And if you like Kurzgesagt tech videos, please reply so I may respectfully call you a fucking donkey.

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I’m frustrated by the discourse too but I’m not sure it’s for the same reasons as you.

What frustrates me is we never seem to discuss goals and why we have those goals.

Is the goal to keep the average temperature of earth as low as possible for as long as possible?

Is it to minimize the impact and costs for humans?

What exactly are we aiming for, and why?

What is your frustration with the discourse?

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Is the goal to keep the average temperature of earth as low as possible for as long as possible?

Human sustainability requires having those goals. Protecting oligarch wealth is within oligarch corruption power, and human prosperity is a sacrifice they are willing to make. Genocide of the uppity disenfranchised as a final solution seems natural today., as the path forward.

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What’s that about kurzgesagt?

I often found good citations/ research evidence linked to their claims (on climate change)

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They repeat whatever their donors claim without any checking on their part. Sometimes this lines up with science, sometimes it’s just propaganda.

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Any example videos that are propoganda?

I’d like to scrutinize one so I can fact check better in the future. I mainly check the citations in the links.

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They list their sources! Their content tends to be pretty well done, even if not perfect.

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According to several other data sets, 2023 reached 1.5C too. Dramatic record low Arctic sea ice volume throughout the year, and current, including at north pole is ominous for north pole being ice free in next 2 summers.

https://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icethickness/thk.uk.php

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Sitting here in a beautiful sunny day, people can be forgiven for thinking its not a big deal.

Until you realise how much energy it takes to raise the temperature of the ocean and land by 1.5. And then that all that energy goes into every weather event forever until we reverse it.

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55 degrees F in Massachusetts a week before Christmas. I was driving with my windows down. I got nuthin else. What the shit, man.

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It’s been twenty degrees F (11C) above average in Arizona this week. Should be frigid with snow on the ground (in the mountains) yet I was riding my bike with a t-shirt this week.

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OK, I looked it up. Average from 1979 to 1999 for me on December 17th was 29.1 degrees F.

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Congrats, everyone! We finally did it! And way ahead of schedule! Take that, scientists! They said we couldn’t do it before 2050. They warned us! They scolded us! But look at us now! Eat it, nerds!

sigh

This is fucking ridiculous.

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We did it guys 🥳

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