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The sort of person who says “woke agenda” (or almost anything else involving the word “agenda”) is often someone I disagree with and find unpleasant, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a specific cluster of ideas that he’s referring to which I also often disagree with. I suppose I would refer to these ideas as “the social justice movement” or “modern leftism” rather than “woke”. Simply defining these ideas as “human rights” is disingenuous - you might as well define them as “the truth” if you’re going to simply assume that people who disagree with you cannot possibly even have a point sometimes.

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So you’re against human rights for all. Got it.

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That’s right. I’m evil simply for the sake of being evil, like Skeletor.

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part of my woke agenda is actually to obsolesce the language of “rights”, as I believe it is a flawed notion. instead, I advocate for equality and freedom.

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Chat GPT end script malfunctioned? (Duplicate comment lmao)

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I’ve done the same unintentionally because my Lemmy client says “post failed” and I hit submit a 2nd time.

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Nah, duplicate comments are just a Lemmy bug or user error.

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I don’t necessarily have anything against human rights, but which rights, and for whom? Who decides, and then who enforces those rights? Rights are kind of meaningless without enforcement, and for that you need a state. In that regard, the rights that exist and are enforced, and for whom, depends primarily on who controls the state. That’s fine if the people who control the state share your ideas about which rights get priority, but it sucks if you and the state disagree.

Edit: I think this video essay explains it much better.

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What human rights do you disagree with?

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I didn’t say that I disagreed with anything, but I wouldn’t consider myself the biggest supporter of gun rights, for an example.

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Guns are not a human right.

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If you don’t know by now then I doubt you have anything productive to say on the matter.

Regardless: It is a term most often used when a piece of media acknowledges the existence of someone who isn’t a straight, white, able-bodied male. A woman main character? A gay character? A black person? Someone with even a little autism who we aren’t just calling “quirky” but actually admitting it this time? And if a transperson is within a mile of the thing there are far too many people who will shit their pants in rage. The opposite of woke is all the effort to force the destruction of media that does these things. It’s the effort to ban books, deny people care, and to simply just treat different people as people. The “anti-woke” are mad that those different from them have the gall to exist.

You can try to ramble it away as some deep philosophical connundrum but it’s just not that complicated.

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All I’m saying is: if you really feel strongly about defending and enforcing the human rights of the historically marginalized groups you’ve mentioned, you will need to fight very, very hard to acquire and accrue as much power as possible to do it. It will probably require a fairly significant, prolonged, organized, possibly violent movement.

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The Woke Mind Virus is just ideas. Nothing is more contagious than a good idea.

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Did you know there is a word for that? It’s been bastardized by the internet but that’s a meme by its original definition.

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Bad ideas seem to be more virulent actually

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I don’t get it; ‘human rights’ are threatening children?

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That’s right. The not getting it part. When those sort of things are said in that context and they don’t make any sense, it’s because the person making the claim is doing it in bad faith.

Changing it to human rights allows it to be easily exposed.

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Sorry but you explained nothing what wasn’t already in the picture.

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what do you mean by “threatening children”?

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That’s part of the rhetoric of the right, no? Protecting the children from the woke agenda.

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You’re so close. The point is that they are, in fact, claiming that human rights threaten children. They just won’t admit it.

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