96 points

For the crazy people like me who won’t let it go

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nah, it’s crazy that phone designers let it go

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I mean, I can count how many times I’ve thought “damn I wish I still had wired headphones” on zero hands.

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My complaint has always been that the stupid things need to endlessly be recharged.

I’ve got some AirPod Pros and they’re great… for about 4 hours.

Then you’re stopping what you’re doing, recharging for half an hour, and then you’re good for uh, another 3 hours because that wasn’t a full charge.

And after the 2nd or 3rd time you’ve done that, your case is dead and you get to throw everything on a charger for a couple of hours.

Ooooooooor I can put in my wired headphones, and not give a shit about any of that, because that’s not how those work at all.

I suppose most people don’t spend most of their day listening to podcasts and audiobooks and thus 4 hours is fine, but good lord is it annoying as crap.

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43 points

I’ve never really understood the argument against headphone jacks. I can still use Bluetooth headphones with my phone. I can also use wired headphones and aux cables on my phone. Why would you want less features

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26 points

I can. Every time I forget to recharge my wireless headphones case.

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24 points

Must be nice to either accept the objectively worse sound quality of wireless headphones, or be wealthy enough to afford a product that sounds almost as good as the wired version does for ten times the price and just not care about it getting stolen.

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18 points

Damn, I’d need like 100 hands to count those times myself. To each their own?

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10 points

I dunno, how about the horrible privacy practices of most cars nowadays? Bluetooth allows connection, sure. It also allows data to go between the device and the car. An aux jack can’t do that.

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2 points

To be honest, I’ve used Bluetooth headphones before Android was even a thing (stupid W850i proprietary ports and all) and love them.

However, dickhead here just put my Soundcore buds through the wash so there is argument for me having a backup which this Poco F6 is now lacking.

It’s a silly divisive topic IMO which is never gonna be solved when blog authors put out articles like the above.

:(

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1 point

I like rhythm games so I prefer wired.

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12 points

It’s not us who are crazy!

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6 points

It’s not crazy to want to keep using your excellent wired headphones and not rely on battery powered bullshit

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2 points

I have a pair of Etymotics that i have had for 20 years, ficks no 3.5mm jack. Have a Nokia phone I use that has uSD and earphone jack.

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-8 points

It is when you act like adapters don’t exist

This is written by someone who’s using IEMs on a pixel, this weird obsession with jacks on the phones should have died years ago

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3 points

They turn a robust connector into a fragile piece of shit, 1/2 ass’d compromise is the best description.

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1 point

I’m using IEMs on a pixel too, with a jack as intended not some bullshit dongle.

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My daily driver is a Poco F2 Pro which has the jack port.

My car is old and I still wire it to the speakers for using Spotify and such, my gf has to use the adapter thingy for her iPhone and she can’t charge and play music at the same time, I can do that without an issue.

Too bad companies keep getting rid of ports.

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A fellow F2 Pro owner here. I don’t have use for the aux port that often, but whenever I do, it’s great! Older cars, mixers, etc, everything is just plug and play like it should be.

However the notorious charging port ribbon cable seems to have broken again and this might be some of the last things I write with the phone :(

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However the notorious charging port ribbon cable seems to have broken again and this might be some of the last things I write with the phone :(

Yeah, that is one annoying issue for sure.

It happened to mine as well, what I did year (years?) ago, was to use a tiny piece of electric tape in the flex to make pressure and make it to recognize the charger as well…

Still working fine after that.

If your device stops recognizing data I think it is game over though.

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0 points

There are adapters with charger throughput. Or else a car phone holder with wireless charging capability that’s connected to the cigarette lighter port will do the trick.

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2 points

Bluetooth audio is terrible. And 2.4 GHz doesn’t seem to be very common.

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I just got a USB-C to 3.5" adapter and done. The phones listed here are either overpriced or shit.

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Extremely hard disagree. Have you used a modern Sony phone before? What makes the Sony over priced compared to it’s Apple, Samsung or Google counterparts?

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I’ve used older Xperia phones, not new ones. But a list price of 1400 bucks is by default overpriced. Samsungs are so full of bloat and proprietary shit, I wouldn’t touch them, ever. Plus their bootloader can’t be unlocked, which is heavily restricting my use cases.

Wouldn’t ever touch Apple devices either, and while Pixel phones are great, the price points of the new 9 Pro at around 900 bucks is high, but barely in acceptable range for me. Don’t have one (still happy with my OnePlus 10 Pro, that was about 650 bucks I think), but that’s the only high end brand you mentioned that I would consider if I were to upgrade at this point.

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36 points

Problem is finding one and an unlocked bootloader so you can get rid of all the Google crap.

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A15 + 5g both have a headphone jack and can be unlocked apparently. Probably the A25 versions too.

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Useful advice

Edit: it appears that this is only accurate for the models not sold in North America

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I’m satisfied with my https://moondroplab.com/en/products/miad01

It’s got two jacks!

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This one has TWO headphone ports!

  • I love the official brochure for the camera: “It’s not good but it works”.

Edit: Damn you, you edited the thing i said while i was writing it. :D

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6 points

Wtf is a “pulyarbnnntelpc shell”?

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5 points

Damn this thing looks awesome, having issues finding the bands it works on.

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3 points

Is it not right at the top of the page?

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Yep it’s right there, no clue how I missed it. I shot right to the bottom of the page looking for it, didn’t even think to check the top. Thanks

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Looks pretty great, though I’d never buy it due to the lack of software support. I wish that developers making these phones would just allow easy bootloader unlock and give the device trees needed for custom roms. The community would do the rest, just like Xiaomi phones in the old days.

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2 points

Most western banking apps won’t work on that phone.

F

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2 points

Looks amazing!

What’s the catch?

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3 points

Android 13 is listed as the OS, so absent support is my guess.

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2 points

I’m running 14 on it currently

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1 point

Some banking apps and stuff wont work properly, and it’s not amazing value

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21 points

No mention of the DAC quality of any of the models. I’d hope the Sony one is decent.

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I got the Xperia 1 VI, the headphone port seriously lacks power. It’s like half of what i’d expect from a phone. They might have bent a knee to some EU regulation. All my older cheaper phones could drive my larger cans, this one doesn’t leave much headroom.

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Sony

Can’t trust them ever again. Had an XZ Premium, and they took away Miracast in an update.

And I’m still not over them taking away Linux support on the PS3…

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4 points

One of the reasons I’m using an lg g8 as a Digital audio player

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3 points

Is that a big concern in 2024? Devices are much more powerful and audio is cheap and easy.

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You’d be surprised. Good quality compact DACs are very expensive unless the manufacturer engineers a better version.

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Are they though?

This isn’t the 90’s. All it needs to do us produce an analog stream.

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It isn’t so much power because that’s cheap and easy. It’s the hardware processing the data. A DAC is what decides whether or not sound is clear at any given volume, and the cheaper ones have a tendency to distort or otherwise suck as volume increases

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That sounds like a dated idea. Modern hardware shouldn’t have any issues creating an audio stream.

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I can’t speak on the xperia 1 vi, but I have the 1 iii and the DAC is great.

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18 points

Now do one for phones that still have a microsd slot

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Sony has both! I’m rocking a 1tb SD card at the moment that I swap into my drone and laptop for quick file transfer and it’s amazing.

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Dual SIM plus MicroSD? Or either/or?

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Either or. Sony phones still cost and arm, a leg and your left kidney though.

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Moto stylus 5g has both. The review said it had bloatware, but it had way less than my S9 or z fold 4. It’s running pretty lean out of the box, with just a few moto apps you don’t really need.

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