I was wondering if there were systems in place for users to report mods who are just ignoring the code of conduct and just abusing their power of moderator as a whole?
I’ve seen that we could get in touch via Mastodon, but I don’t have an account for that unfortunately and I was curious to know if there were other ways
I posted here because it happened on lemmy.ml
But sadly, considering this is not the first time I’ve had the displeasure of interacting with your run of the mill, power tripping mod from ml, I won’t hold my breath waiting for their assistance I guess.
It sucks that such a large instance as no accountability though. I’d imagine it must sucks for new users having to learn on their own to be aware of the usual instances
As I wrote, this is not the first time I encountered such behavior. And while you might not care, I was curious to know if there were better solutions than just accepting these kind of things passively.
To me it is wrong for such prominent instances to always be the ones getting away with this type of behavior
The point isn’t that they received some wild type of “punishment” they can’t come back from. The point is that having what you’re allowed to say policed in this fashion is offensive to the vast majority of people, whatever mechanism “gentle” or not is being used to enforce the policing.
Moderation started out as a way to remove racism, spam and similar blatant abuse. Somehow, it’s grown to the point that people feel they have to hover over the shoulders of the commenters dictating what are the allowed and disallowed types of statements. Most people feel that if they think China has an oppressive government, they should be allowed to say it. And that if they think the US has an oppressive government, they should be allowed to say it. Lemmy.ml is a silly place because one of those statements is “allowed” and the other is not, which is absurd behavior that belongs better on a Fox News comment section or a US State Department web site than it does on the flagship instance of a supposedly FOSS-and-freedom friendly software project.
!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Also I would not recommend having an account on lemmy.ml if this is your concern, the moderators here are rather famous for doing this at the drop of a hat. I guess you could have your account on .ml and mostly interact with communities on other instances, but why?
Looking at the modlog, they picked up a 5 day ban from memes@lemmy.ml for a comment that pretty much directly attacks .ml as being “tankie”.
“Every now and then, the .ml side of this community comes through with these inaccurate tankle memes. You win some, you lose some I guess”
That’s the whole comment I wrote. If you are going to report it, at least do it correctly please.
Why indeed. I’d never create an account over there, I agree with you.
Sadly every user on Lemmy learned or will learn at their expense that interacting with most users from ml, hexbear and the likes, brings nothing positive on most occasions.
I had hoped that maybe something was done since last time I checked, but I guess I was wrong 😅
Authoritarians gonna authoritarian.
Also, especially with young people, calling them out for bad behavior like this usually leads to them just doubling down on the bad behavior because they’ll feel that their honor is insulted by the criticism and so they have to reject it. Something like that. I definitely wouldn’t hold your breath for a change.
Come to the .ee side.
In smaller instances, you can easily reach the Admin and are much more likely to get a response. Also, the moderation is likely done completely by the Admin and not by a less-invested person who might be enjoying the power and control of being a moderator.
From my experience, about 80% of opened reports are self-resolvable and don’t need Admins or moderators and is just someone seeing the world through a biased lens, so everything they don’t believe becomes misinformation, and they start opening reports for vengeance. When many of these keep coming, it wears Admins and moderators down, and they are more likely to just ban than respond. This fatigue is not something a small instance Admin experiences. They give more thought to the situation.
I was banned on mastodon . social because someone who disagreed with me perfectly crafted a complaint (they apparently had a lot of experience doing this) that took what I wrote out of context to seem like I was saying something else, and .social banned me instantly and denied the appeal. The claim was total fiction. They didn’t care. They had a stack of reports to get through. I had no hope of reaching an Admin.
I never used a large instance again.
Just something, maybe, to think about.
The few users who have created accounts in my instance are thrilled with the direct support they get from me and my co-admin. I imagine that their original instance was something of a mill where they were treated like nuisances. It’s one of the things I love about being an admin, is the ability to protect people who would otherwise be ignored
