What’s the narrative internally about the harm e-cigarettes do to peoples lungs?
The only study i will ever quote in my life at the moment is the study done by the UK royal college of physicians that said vaping is 95% safter than smoking. the problem with alot of studies saying how “this chemical was found its bad” that have been done in the past was that the fluid they used, the power level, the device how long it was fired for, etc… are so dynamic that it’s not conclusive.
Honestly, I treat it like smoking, do you current smoke? if not, i probably wouldn’t vape. Do you smoke and want to quit or want to replace it with something else? then try a vape. Actually, Here in Canada, we were very strongly against selling e cigarettes to people who were not smokers (not saying we denied them service) because the message we were trying to get across was that this was a tool to reduce harm from tobacco. I have been vaping for 10 years now, and if i was not vaping, i would be smoking about a pack of cigarettes a day. some people have their vices in life, i don’t drink, i just enjoy nicotine.
the problem with alot of studies saying how “this chemical was found its bad” that have been done in the past was that the fluid they used, the power level, the device how long it was fired for, etc… are so dynamic that it’s not conclusive.
Oh man I used to skip straight to the Experiment setup section because almost every time it was designed with settings that NO ONE would vape at. Like that formaldehyde one, it was something crazy like 600+ degrees iirc. Like almost no one is going that high of a temp LMAO
Nicotine users have gone way up since vaping was normalised, especially under children.
That was more of an issue in the USA, where it was more available in convenience stores. I dont know about you, but i started smoking at 14, and the guy behind the counter didn’t really give a crap about my age. Here, before variety stores sold it, e cigarette shops ask for ID, and when we shipped product, the shipper (canada post) needed ID check from the person who bought it or they would send the package back (and you would be suprised how many teens tested this and how well it was enforced, we got between 15-20 back a week for failed ID)
I did too but I’d rather not talk about it
fair. Nothing shady ever happened with the things i saw other than rich people trying to rich, and when the company i worked for started selling iQOS
I view burned tobacco products like cigarettes, vapes, and “heat not burn” devices like IQOS as a scale of harm, where the most harm is burned tobacco, and the lowest is non participation.
Vaping is WAY closer to non participation than it is to burned tobacco, and I suspect HNB devices are similarly way closer to NP than BTP as well, just not as close as vaping.
When they’re marketed to existing smokers, I think vaping and HNB devices are net goods, they improve people’s health outcomes. They can also be a gateway to cessation, or a step along the way. That’s how I quit smoking a long time ago when vapes first came out.
Full disclosure, while I don’t work directly for the tobacco industry, I do do some work on youth prevention technology for some of these types of products.
Why you did that?
I was, and still am an advocate and user of e-cigarettes as a way to quit smoking/replace smoking. although im not as passionate as i used to be ever since variety stores started selling them.
Amen. I quit smoking thanks to vaping, with all my friends being smokers, it really helped me to be able to keep socializing when everyone went out to smoke and to not feel the cravings by maintaining the reflex of taking something to my mouth when out and about.
I quit vaping a year ago too.
what did you do there?
How did you come up with recipes for the eliquid?
Well, it was alot of trial and error like baking, but to save time, there is a online repository of recipes that people share online. What i liked to do was see what people said what % of what flavour tasted like, and note this down to see what i could get from other flavours. My most favorite flavor i made was a apple fritter that tasted like jelly apple pieces in it. of course i am making very small bottles of this not to waste material, then i would try it out on a RDA(rebuildable dripping atomizer). usually small amounts people make for personal use are made by weight, but the big companies measure by volume as its much easier when bottling 1000s of bottles.