Guaranteed the word “woke” will be thrown around left and right

29 points

Add Naughty Dog’s “Intergalactic” to the pile: The protagonist is female and a PoC! The usual suspects are already frothing at the mouth and recording a bajillion outrage bait videos for their Youtube channels.

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And bald! Which probably reminds some of the negative anti-wokers of their current day living situations

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I dislike when space games have loose hair on characters. All hair should probably be cut short or tied up if you’re making a game in space. Bald makes a lot of sense for this reason, especially since even short hair you’d ideally have physics in it floating around (assuming it has zero-g stuff or anything like that).

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64 points

How could anyone hate Ciri :c

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For me it’s not that I hate ciri at all. I completely understand women’s complaint that most games have a male protagonist and they can’t relate to that. I feel the same way, I like to feel at least somewhat immersed and I can never really get that with a female protagonist. It’s not like I don’t try either, I just never end up getting into the games I have tried that are like this.

I know it’s hard when the story is based on an individual, but I just wish more games had an option so everyone could play who they want to. I don’t hate them for this choice, it will just be another game that “isn’t for me” in the same way a hyper competitive PVP game “isn’t for me” which is fine.

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49 points

I’m sorry, you’re saying you’re unable to get into a game simply because it’s a female protagonist? If it was a male you’d be fine?

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When logic is forsaken, turnabout is fair play.

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12 points

I mean how could you ever sympathize with a character that doesn’t look exactly like you*?

*(Or the ideal of yourself, because let’s be honest…)

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“It’s so hard for me to imagine myself as a mutant monster killing master swordsman in a fantasy world if said mutant has a pair of tits”

Lol

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I think he means he thinks women have trouble identifying to male protagonists as he has trouble identifying to female protagonists. If it was a male it’s ok because he’s a male (he can relate to).

He’s conflating women “can’t get behind a male protagonist” with women “who want more representation” and using it as his excuse. I think most gamers don’t care, and don’t think we should always have the choice. The only people who will hate this choice is people who already wanted to hate on women to begin with.

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Pretty much, yeah. Part of it is the whole “power fantasy” thing. I get, as others said, that it’s a fantasy world so how could you expect to be immersed with mutants and whatever, but that’s not the point. I don’t expect it to be a VR experience where I can’t even tell I’m not in the real world, and as others assumed no for fucks sake it has nothing to do with hating women. That’s absurd. It’s just a personal preference thing. I’m not going to write to the devs bitching or make some stupid “woke game” post, I just probably won’t play it.

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Is it really like that for you? Does the same thing happen with books, movies, TV? Should they have an “option”?

I have absolutely no trouble immersing myself into Aloy, Lara Croft, Jesse (Control), Red (Transistor), Bayonetta, Faith (Mirror’s Edge), and others.

Like, the character not being the same gender as me, doesn’t even register as an obstacle for inhabiting them. I’m able to mentally become them in literally the exact same way I do any other protagonist.

Since, it’s not like I need to be the same as someone in order to see the world through their perspective.

The opposite, the less they are like me, the greater the chance I’ll get to experience something from outside my own lived experience. And I like that.

I’m with women in that they should have representation in games (and stories in general), but even just for myself I’m cheering this particular progression on for the sheer variety it brings.

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Is it really like that for you? Does the same thing happen with books, movies, TV? Should they have an “option”?

It is like that for me and they don’t need to have that option, that’s unrealistic to expect. You can’t choose anything in a book or movie. It just becomes something that “isn’t for me” which is fine. Not everything has to be my taste. I was simply explaining why it had nothing to do with hating ciri for some people.

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1 point

Jesse’s an Outlier.

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Many Mass Effect players reported that FemShep was the better way to play the game. Many guys play female avatars in games because the cosmetic choices are usually more interesting. This actually came up in a study on MMORPG players many years ago, and I imagine it is still true today.

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So it’s not the magical powers, physical abilities, sexual magnatism, combat prowess, charisma, or anything else that Garalt has that you don’t that throws you off? It’s only that he has the body shape of a man that allows you to be immersed? If you played Garalt, but the body was modded into that of a female character, you’d lose your immersion, even though it’s damn near equally unlike you as a person as before?

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24 points

I can’t understand hating Ciri as a chracter, but I can understand being kind of a disappointed not having Geralt as a playable character.

If you consider it as an isolated game it doesn’t matter, but when you play three games as one character and then suddenly switch to another character it can feel kind of melancholic, in absence of a better word. Especially since now there’s a non-zero chance that they’ll kill Geralt in the new game.

But anyway, Ciri was an interesting character and those parts in Witcher 3 where you played as her were great.

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and then suddenly switch to another character it can feel kind of melancholic

Its not that sudden, Ciri was playable in Witcher 3 at times and the ending that has to be canon for her to be the W4 Protag leaves Geralt alive and old, and if you count B&W the owner of a vineyard where he can chill with his girl of choice, so they don’t even need to kill him off

“He’s old and hangs out in Toussaint now, he sends Ciri letters” would be easy to do

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Well obviously Geralt survives in the end of witcher 3 and most likely will be alive in 4, but what I meant is that they might kill him in the new game like they did with Vesemir in Witcher 3. They don’t need to, and I hope they don’t, but it would be kind of an easy plot device so there’s a chance. But at this point it’s just speculation anyway.

My main point was more in line that some people just don’t like change and that would be enough to make them oppose Ciri as the main character.

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11 points

It’s not sudden at all. In fact there’s no way you can be a fan of these games and not have seen this coming. It was the very obvious Next Step.

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5 points

Geralt got his ending in The Witcher 3. I would much rather play as Ciri.

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10 points

Someone that did not read the books. There are multiple points where the story shifts to Ciri. In a similar way Ragnarok shifts to Atreaus.

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6 points

Witcher 3 literally has you play as her on multiple occasions, too

I haven’t even finished it before and I can think of at least 2

So it’d be someone who’s never read the books and has never played 3 (she isn’t mentioned in 1 or 2)

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1 point

Is it faithful to the source material? (I have no idea what’s going on?

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The games take place after the books, so it’s green field. Although it sounds like I canonizes the ending of witcher 3, (but honestly there was only one “correct” ending to the witcher 3 unless you’re a heartless bastard)

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6 points

If its new material than it should be judged on whether its good overall or not. And if its got the same vibe as the previous material.

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The vibe is overwhelmingly closer to the books than the series. The devs are massive fans and it shows.

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2 points

If it’s after the books I expect to see her riding unicorns, making gates between worlds, and lying in ponds distributing swords.

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21 points

Ciri is such a great character in the books. I hope they can get a lot of that personality into her in the game, too.

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It seems like it from the trailer, but I’m nervous about the voice actress, she does sound different than 3… But I’m willing to give her a fair chance

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From the trailer, its clear that its ~15-20 year time skip, she is able to drink witcher potions so she passed the trial of grasses, and clearly has much more control of her powers.

The trial of grasses point is where im concerned, yes she would have plot armor for a procedure that has a notriously low survival rate, plus the school of the wolf (Geralt, Vesimier and co.) destroied their old records after the events of the first game so that noone could produce more witchers.

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11 points

Like this: I woke to news of a cool-looking Witcher game?

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