Democratic strategists are still patting themselves on the back for a catastrophic defeat.

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The DNC hasn’t had a real primary since 2008. That’s the real problem.

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Hey, at least the incumbent didn’t roll over and withdraw from the race last second in 2012 🙄

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If you think Harris lost badly, Biden would have set ratio records.

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This loss is largely on Brandon for stroking his limp dick far, far too long.

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Aw jeez, can we get off the cheap ‘primary’ diversion? If Mr Trump dies of congestive heart failure on day 207 from an astounding number of big macs, you also don’t get a primary to choose the next American president OR HIS VP.

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It’s hardly a diversion. As stupid a choice as Trump is, he was still viewed by voters as their pick. While the Republican party is held hostage to the populist Trump and his supporters, the DNC won’t even let voters participate in the selection of candidates. Can you really say that Biden won a normal primary (coming from behind as other candidates strategically dropped out)? Would you say Harris was selected by voters at all? Did Clinton’s bailing out of the DNC in 2016 not register with you?

I understand why voters haven’t been that excited about the Democrats for over a decade.

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Yup the only Dem I voted for president instead of holding my nose voting against the Republican was Obama. Clinton, Kerry, Biden, Harris all sucked.

Obama barely won the primary against Clinton and she made sure that wouldn’t happen again with Bernie.

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the DNC won’t even let voters participate in the selection of candidates.

Can you stop with the nonsense? You just made that up out of nothing. You know the DNC is not a person right? Every primary works exactly the same. The voters elect the delegates who chose both the candidate and the DNC membership.

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No, the negligence goes that far back. You don’t get what happened at that debate over night. They should have announced he wasn’t running again in 2023 and allowed a proper primary.

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Well of course they didn’t, they got their asses kicked. From what I saw they ran the Hillary Clinton 2.0 campaign.

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1 point

“No primaries until you vote for the candidate on your plate”

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2 points

I don’t care who does the electing as long as I get to do the nominating.

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25 points

No shit?

A flawless campaign would have won.

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Not necessarily, you can do everything right and still lose.

That said, the reason she was initially lauded as running a great campaign was picking up Biden’s campaign from a cold start and making it much closer than map coloring makes it appear. She definitely did make mistakes in there too though, so not flawless at all.

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That’s not true.

A perfect campaign would address the issuers voters have, and not insist everything is fine and voters facing homeless or food insecurity are just “leftists insisting on purity”.

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That’s why I said she made some mistakes, and it wasn’t a flawless campaign.

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There’s so much cope out there. Sure she “only” lost by 2 million-ish votes, but when you disaggregate the data and see these votes came from almost exclusively the most embattled counties in the country, 2 million suddenly becomes a much more meaningful number.

Although, I am worried about Republican strategies moving forward. Frankly, Trump’s policies will have some very strong negative consequences if he follows through on them. It will be interesting to see Republicans try to win using the “down with the system!” strategy of the past 8 years when Trump is gone and they have the incumbency advantage. If the Dems put someone good up, they’ll win handily again.

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Frankly, Trump’s policies will have some very strong negative consequences if he follows through on them.

Trump plans to destroy the United States governmental system and become a king, with the power to kill his opponents and remove anyone’s ability to ever challenge his hold on power without bringing down the full weight of a multi-trillion-dollar punitive system down upon themselves. Probably he will imprison or kill anyone who tries to disobey him. Also, he’s explicitly allied himself with violent foreign adversaries who view us as an enemy that needs to be exterminated.

I would call that negative consequences. It’s not guaranteed that he will succeed, but that’s what he’s planning, and he has some powerful allies who are going to try to help him with it.

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I disagree. the dude is obviously not a monarch.

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If you use words like ‘ask’, ‘cope’, or ‘spend’ like a noun, I like it when you do it really early so I can move on.

Don’t get me wrong: an average is just that. You be you.

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Every single staffer took their money and failed at delivering what was expected of them. In companies, board of directors would demand clawbacks

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