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A map of the world with vertical lines marking the time zones from UTC-12 to UTC+12. It has a legend:

Wrong Time

“Natural time zones” are 15° in longitude. Land in red observes a time other than the zone it lies within. Smaller islands depict their 12 nautical mile territorial sea, for visual effect. In some cases this includes a state’s archipelagic waters.

Plate Carrée projection, WGS-84 datum. December 2018 © International Mapping, all rights reserved.

14 points

Lets just do a single time zone

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1 point

alright, then from now on your noon is at 19:00 and your midnight is at 07:00

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3 points

Yeah, and? its just an arbitrary number.

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2 points

Sounds good, thank you!

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3 points

Would be a pain in the ass

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13 points

I prefer the current way — I can be in another state or another country and I know that 7am is a good time for breakfast, around noon is a good time for lunch, and so forth. (If you don’t change latitude sure, just go outside to figure this out, but it’s complicated if it’s overcast, or the latitude isn’t what you’re used to, or…)

Time has a number of meanings — UTC is great for machines, local time is (IMHO) a good concept for humans.

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I think local time would work pretty much the same with a single time zone.

Single time zone: You get to a new place and look up what time is good for breakfast here

Many time zones: You get to a new place and look up what time zone you’re in.

Either way you need to look up what the local time is. But with a single time zone, i think the breakfast time and work hours would be a bit better attuned to sunrise/sunset at your location.

To me, the main difference is more philosophical. I think it’d encourage a more global perspective.

Edit to add: it’s more of a pie in the sky wish. I dont think it would be worthwhile to actually remove time zones. It would be very expensive for not a lot of gain. In the same vein, I’d like to:

sort out our calendar (evenly sized months, dates corresponding to weekdays, and not have prime number of weekdays),

sort out our time units. Lets keep it all in the same base (not 24h days and 60min per hour)

transition to a base-12 numeric system. It’s just much more satisfying.

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12 points

Checking the time zone ones (or more like your phone just switching automatically) vs having to remember the offset every time until you’ve gotten used to it. I’d go with the first one every time

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That’s an interesting idea, but I disagree to some extent. Although, I really love the idea of having a single unified global time, it would make traveling inconvenient.

While staying in a different part of the world, you would need to translate local times to your home time. For example, 21:30 may sound like evening to you, but somewhere else that could be midday, morning or anything else. If you look at museum opening hours, it’s not immediately apparent if it opens just after breakfast or just before lunch time. You would need to do these translations several times a day during your stay to understand when things will happen.

However, time units are an inconsistent mess, and the calendar is a total disaster. If we need another french revolution to fix that, I’m not going to stand in its way.

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7 points

Problem with a single time zone is working across them. They’re a huge pain in the ass, but it would be even worse without them. Keeping track of who is in what time zone is difficult, but keeping track of everyone’s schedule without using them as a placeholder would be horrible. ‘what time is a good time for breakfast where you are’ and then doing the math anyway just isn’t as convenient as ‘oh, it’s already 5pm where you are’

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6 points

Many time zones: You get to a new place and look up what time zone you’re in.

Well, sorta — but it’s no effort at all because my timekeeping device (phone) does this automatically.

For me, the time of day is internalized in a way that I think is hard to switch. Same as how I was raised with imperial units — even though I prefer (and use professionally) metric, the intuition can be a little harder to get. But to each their own of course :)

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1 point

I feel time zones would be documented better than local lunch times.

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5 points

Yeah! We want utc more widely used.

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2 points

Would be ideal, but it’s going to be impossible to convince the world to do it.

They won’t even abolish daylight savings.

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0 points

The entire timezone and Gregorian calendar concepts are outdated political tool. We should’ve switched to consistent UTC-only clock and natural World Calendar or Cotsworth calendar

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natural World Calendar

Couldn’t find details of what that is.

Cotsworth calendar

Ok this is very interesting. I like it.

But personally, I’m a bigger fan of the Calendar of Harptos from the fantasy Forgotten Realms world. Conveniently, it also has 365 days per year, except every 4 years when it’s 366. 12 months of three ten-days each. It has a few more intercalary days than Cotsworth, but maintains a number of months divisible by 4 so we can continue having 3 months per season.

And speaking of seasons. In this idealised world, everywhere (or at least everywhere that uses the Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter season cycle) should use meteorological seasons, rather than the ridiculous astrological seasons currently more popular in Europe and North America.

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-1 points

I want more sun after my work. Local time zones don’t make any sense.

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5 points

Humans generally are awake during daytime hours and sleeping during night time. It makes sense that the time we assign them are fairly consistent.

Then there’s China just being ridiculous.

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13 points

“wrong”. technically it’s entirely made up. you can write whatever number you want on the scale where the sun hits the zenith as long as all people nearby can agree to it.

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4 points

Yeah, methinks a gradient would have been better instead of a solid demarcation

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Wrong title, it should be:

A Map of the world showing where the local time zone is wrong more than half hours

An hour is a human concept, we just divided the day to 24 parts, we could use whatever else division. Local time is correct only on the center longitude, which is a line with zero thickness.

Also it’s clearly visible that France and Spain are in the wrong time zone, and it was changed by the Nazis. Before WW2 France and Spain was in the same zone as Britain. France changed because of the German occupation, and they forgot to change back after the war.

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3 points

technically correct

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5 points

Nazi time Nazi time

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4 points

It’s nazi o clock somewhere

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12 points

Correction: Spain time zone was not changed by the Nazis, It was changed by the Fascists. Franco changed it to have the same time as Germany.

Fun fact: Have you seen videos of dogs begging for food the day after the time change, having to wait an extra hour? Spaniards were the same, and after the time change, they continued eating lunch and dinner according to their biological clock. That’s why Spaniards have lunch and dinner at later hours.

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