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Jeez Biden now has a choice in my opinion, fighting a two-way battle against a united Republican party and the other half of the dissenting Democrats or swallow his pride and pass on the baton to someone that could be more convincing to voters than Trump. Biden was the right choice against Trump in 2020, because he won by convincing voters he was way more capable than Trump. Now in 2024 is he still as convincing.

Usually a smart person changes course if they see their current trajectory will lead to failure, a proud person will continue their trajectory even if it will lead to failure, and try and try again until they succeed. The proud person might succeed some of the time, the smart person will succeed most of the time

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I hate these arguments because they only focus on Biden.

TRUMP SAID LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE during the debate - oh, but Biden is the problem?!

Just go out and vote, and Trump will go away.

Don’t vote, or do a protest vote and you’ll regret being this dense later.

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Just go out and vote, and Trump will go away.

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For the record, Hitler initially won power through elections, he did not begin the whole totalitarian thing until he was already the Chancellor.

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Welp, awesome meme, though I’m not white.

And I’ve already learned that lesson, having lived in Venezuela. Venezuelan people think that this year’s elections will bring change - nope. As long as the authoritarians are in power, they control everything. Those elections are truly rigged.

The U.S. is different, though. Voting still works. For the people who don’t believe this, I’d like them to explain how Trump lost in 2020 while trying to illegally stay in power.

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They didn’t say anything about fascism.

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Your argument is basically Trump bad, vote other person. Yes the other person alternative might be better than Trump, but is that really how you would inspire someone to go vote, through fear of the other rather than having an inspiration leader you are willing to support.

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Of course not. I’d rather motivate a person to go vote for progress, not fear.

But what options do we have now? What should we do? Continue whining about Biden and give Trump a chance, a moron who is 1000x worse?

And let’s be clear. I blame democrats for putting us in this situation as much as the republicans for sucking up to Trump.

But for now, let’s put the fire out first, then deal with internal politics later.

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He did, but Biden was too slow to rebuttal his lies

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Just … No. Of course Trump spews lies, what’s changed over the last 10 years? Nothing. And he’ll get his base to cast ballots.

What has changed is the capacity of President Biden to hold office. It is absolutely mind boggling how tone def Dem leadership is.

This election will be won by compelling undecideds and independent voters to cast a ballot, full stop. It’s a fallacy to think these voters will be compelled purely on policy. Perception is reality, and the perception from any sane person after watching things unfold the last two weeks is that Biden is not fit to carry on as President. Period.

You want Trump to win? Keep Biden in the race. “Trump worse” messaging will blow up in their faces, just like it did with Hillary. We need a compelling alternative.

Once again, Jon Stewart hits the nail on the head

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You want Trump to win? Keep Biden in the race.

This is a weak premise because of what you said earlier:

Perception is reality, and the perception from any sane person after watching things unfold the last two weeks is that Biden is not fit to carry on as President. Period.

And what you’re saying is that those same “sane” people as you call them, would rather have Trump in power? Please.

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If you want to defeat trump, give us someone people actually want to vote for

West-Stein

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Nah. I don’t want a Putin lackey.

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Stupid ass people wasting precious time.

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Y’all are delusional. If you think forcing Biden to drop is good strategy I don’t know what to tell you other than enjoy trump 🤷‍♂️

Edit: oh this is .ml, I forgot y’all want trump to win.

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What? Nobody will vote for Biden tho. We need someone who the people will actually vote for. Did you learn nothing from Hilary loosing to Trump?

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Biden beat trump once already. And people will vote for Biden. Where is this “nobody will vote for biden” bs coming from?

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50 million people watched Biden shit the bed. He’s lost the swing voters, and he was already behind.

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Biden didn’t commit genocide before

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They’re hoping for a self fulfilling prophecy.

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Why do you believe Lemmy.ml wants Trump to win?

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