This claims to be his story. I havenât verified it, but I have no reason not to believe it. Basically, UHC tortured his mother for years through denial of care, then they did the same to him.
I would note that he is 26 years old: He likely just aged out of his parentsâ health insurance policy, and I would guess that he canât get decent coverage on his own due to his pre-existing condition.
Edit: This has since been described as impersonation. While there is certainly a truth to it, it is not the truth.
Because of the ACA (Obamacare) requirements, he canât be refused or charged more for coverage because of a pre-existing condition.
Whether that insurance denies claims for treatment, however, is still very much in play. Iâve heard you should ask the names and certification of the person or people responsible for the denial of your claim, in writing. Because a lot of the time itâs an algorithm or an unqualified peon, and the company can get in trouble for that.
I imagine you mean they wonât, and you may be right. But too many people donât even start trying to fight denials, which is why insurance companies do it. Often it doesnât take a huge pushback to get them to change, especially if it would expose their corrupt practices. Of course, sometimes they are obdurate, and United Healthcare is one of the worst.
As for the ACA, itâs still true, at least until Trump takes office.
I, too, am curious. But, I read this part of a short story in The Things They Carried, many, many, years ago, and it stuck with me:
You can tell a true war story by the questions you ask. Somebody tells a story, letâs say, and afterward you ask, âIs it true?â and if the answer matters, youâve got your answer.
For example, weâve all heard this one. Four guys go down a trail. A grenade sails out. One guy jumps on it and takes the blast and saves his three buddies.
Is it true?
The answer matters.
Youâd feel cheated if it never happened. Without the grounding reality, itâs just a trite bit of puffery, pure Hollywood, untrue in the way all such stories are untrue. Yet even if it did happen - and maybe it did, anythingâs possible even then you know it canât be true, because a true war story does not depend upon that kind of truth. Absolute occurrence is irrelevant. A thing may happen and be a total lie; another thing may not happen and be truer than the truth. For example: Four guys go down a trail. A grenade sails out. One guy jumps on it and takes the blast, but itâs a killer grenade and everybody dies anyway. Before they die, though, one of the dead guys says, âThe fuck you do that for?â and the jumper says, âStory of my life, man,â and the other guy starts to smile but heâs dead.
Thatâs a true story that never happened.
I donât know that this article was written by Luigi Mangione, or if Luigi Mangione killed the CEO. But, I do know that this story is true, even if it never happened.
i think there are two different meanings of truth here, and it sounds like one of them might be referring to aletheia. from the wikipedia page:
Heidegger gave an etymological analysis of aletheia and drew out an understanding of the term as âunconcealednessâ.[6] Thus, aletheia is distinct from conceptions of truth understood as statements which accurately describe a state of affairs (correspondence), or statements which fit properly into a system taken as a whole (coherence). Instead, Heidegger focused on the elucidation of how an ontological âworldâ is disclosed, or opened up, in which things are made intelligible for human beings in the first place, as part of a holistically structured background of meaning.
edit: just want to say that i agree with the message, and i think itâs true that things donât have to actually happened in order to be true in some sense. i think the term aletheia can be helpful for making the distinction and wanted to share it for that reason
Doubt. Doesnât include any of the statements authorities have quoted. They also mentioned the handwritten manifesto was 262 words.
Even if this isnât the manifesto, his family had money, this reads like it was written by a high schooler, and it was posted yesterday.
real one was just posted https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto
This does seem very amateurish (Gladiator, Greenday, âsmile through the painâ). These are emo tropes. Iâd be disappointed to know itâs him.
Is chilling how thenwhole internet is fed up a story of a man before his sentence. If this guy is innocent his whole life is already exposed forever just for memes and a penny. We are the big brother and we suck.
The âwe did it reddit!â phrase comes from redditors trying to track down suspects of the boston bombing. Redditors found a guy they strongly suspected, then found personal info on them and began harrassing him and family, including death threats.
Imagine being that person accused! One day just living life, the next experiencing a horrible bombing, the next being tracked down by a misguided internet randos on a manhunt.
This is why having some basic privacy is important before you need it
it wasnt the internet that exposed him to the media, it was the police and feds who sold him out to the media. There is no âwe did itâ here. âTheyâ did it.
Iâm sorry, but just one detail from what Iâm seeing on the linked article - âthat personâ committed suicide a month before any of that went down. I donât think it invalidates the point, even though being alive and present to be interrogated mightâve changed things, but it comes off comical when talking about how horrible the experience mustâve been.
Youâre right! I should have said âthose people accusedâ because there were multiple suspects. The one I linked was the most prominent of them. Sorry!
It just shows anyone can do the right thing
He did everything right and believed in the system.
And then he himself, or someone close to him, got a diagnosis that ensured life-long medical debt and poverty.
He seems to have had a spinal surgery and had pins put in his spine. Books heâs looked at seems to indicate chronic pain and fights with insurance companies.
It was exactly what every single person thought who wasnât paid to think otherwise.
Had exact same fusion performed.
4 screws, 2 rods to connect them, and a 3-d sintered titanium cage between the vertebrae.
I can attest to the chronic pain and wanting to armor a bulldozer
chronic pain conditions are something our healthcare and disability systems specifically donât handle well and I havenât met anyone suffering from them that doesnât want to [redacted].
my experience with it has been nebulous and hard to diagnose but incredibly disabling. certain treatments like acupuncture or cupping that specifically target fascia, or shit like somatic therapy, arenât really legitimized by insurance so absent of a diagnosis with a known intervention your choices are to go to a pain clinic and take something possibly addictive or pay your way into alt medicine providers who can either be exactly who you need or hokey grifters.
and I can only imagine the hell that insurance companies put you through for surgical interventions they are supposed to cover but definitely donât want to. reading my partnerâs rejection letters from her company disability provider has been fucking fascinating
The privatized healthcare system happened.