50 points
  1. He doesn’t care about Constitutionally-protected rights
  2. He’ll do this anyways, because it tees up a Supreme Court case on a fast track, or Congress just lets it happen.
  3. He wins either way
permalink
report
reply
8 points

3b. He loves having these fights because he can say ‘BUT THE IMMIGRANTS’ and MAGA, because they don’t actually understand anything about the American constitution or law, will back him because they’ll believe it’s just a bunch of liberals protecting criminal aliens.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

The Supreme Court already ruled against birthright citizenship. The 14 Amendment overturned their decision. And Congress doesn’t have a say in the matter, because a constitutional amendment has to be approved by a supermajority of the states.

I get that people are in a bleak mood, but there are limits to what Trump and republicans can do.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

That’s true, but I think a lot of Americans tend to think of the constitution as being more powerful than it actually is.

Just like any other set of rules, it mostly comes down to how these are interpreted. The constitution itself had no autonomy… it depends on everyone agreeing on a certain interpretation of the words as well as agreeing to enforce this interpretation.

I’m not saying that it is logical or consistent, but the wording “…and subject to the jurisdiction thereof…” in the 14th amendment could have some VERY warped interpretations, if you really wanted to force it…

permalink
report
parent
reply
35 points

This feels like a Federalist Society test of an attack on the Constitution. If this works, and Trump can peel away Amendments, expect chaos. The 4th and 2nd will be taken early.

permalink
report
reply
6 points

I’m surprised that the second would be even remotely considered. If the situation in the US itself isn’t enough, I have a hard time seeing that happen. But, a fascist is a fascist, and the playbook is clear enough.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

Their people will get to keep guns, but don’t think queer people or immigrants will

permalink
report
parent
reply
32 points
*

Just wanted to point out, all members of the military and in public office take an oath to FIRST uphold and defend the constitution of the US, and then, to follow the presidents orders. If the president\president elect is passing policies or making edicts in violation of the constitution without an amendement first being passed by congress, then every elected official, and more importantly, all military officials, have the duty, right, and obligation to stop him and his co-conspirators, both foreign and domestic…

permalink
report
reply
11 points

Nothing is sacred for them, and their words are only used to get what they want now.

The SCOTUS is stacked in Trump’s favor. He’s been openly racist, mysoginist and he is a rapist, and he won the presidency.

Don’t hold your breath on anything that makes sense because the next year will be everything but normal.

Conservatives will shit and clean their ass with the constitution if that mean they can hurt people they don’t like

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

If/when they start breaking the constitution, I’m going to make popcorn because I’m in Canada and it’s about to pop off.

If there’s ever a time or place to take up arms it’s when the Constitution is being stomped on. If none of you stand up and take action at that point, I will be shocked, shocked I say!

permalink
report
parent
reply
29 points

I realize he’s going to be president, but “Trump says” isnt news anymore. Man talks a lot of shit. I’ll start to care when the “Trump does” is in the headline.

permalink
report
reply
8 points
*

Give it about 6 weeks…

permalink
report
parent
reply
22 points

I LOVE the Constitution!*

*When it’s used to DEFEND CHILD KILLERS!

permalink
report
reply
8 points

He’s never said that, as far as I’m aware. He has, however, overtly expressed interest in “suspending the Constitution”.

permalink
report
parent
reply

United States | News & Politics

!usa@midwest.social

Create post

Welcome to !usa@midwest.social, where you can share and converse about the different things happening all over/about the United States.

If you’re interested in participating, please subscribe.

Rules

Be respectful and civil. No racism/bigotry/hateful speech.

Post anything related to the United States.

Community stats

  • 5.9K

    Monthly active users

  • 1.1K

    Posts

  • 4.9K

    Comments