cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/15995282

Real unfortunate news for GrapheneOS users as Revolut has decided to ban the use of ‘non-google’ approved OSes. This is currently being posted about and updated by GrahpeneOS over at Bluesky for those who want to follow it more closely.

Edit: had to change the title, originally it said Uber too but I cannot find back to the source of ether that’s true or not…

45 points

OK McDonald’s, I will not use your most cost effective ordering method. I guess I will just have to order my 10 individually custom cheeseburgers at the counter instead. I might have to have e the order read back, and change my mind about a few burgers.

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3 points

that’s just screwing with the workers though, and the workers sure as hell is not going to get paid extra for your custom order

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8 points

This viewpoint is so stupid.

The cashier is paid to take orders, whether they take 1 long obnoxious order or 3 small orders, it’s the same shit.

People are so swept up in ‘kindness and support’ (internet circlejerking), they think that the fact you inconvenienced some 17 year old, representing a massive corporation, as a fuck you to the company that employs them, you’ve committed some moral sin against your fellow man.

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-5 points

the cashier

Who is also the manager, making drinks, doing the fries because that bitch called in sick…

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6 points

That worker doesn’t want to be there, that’s likely one of 3 jobs they need to barely scrape by.

You holding them up from doing other tasks they need to do to keep a job that barely feeds them is doing nothing but making their day a little harder. It affects the company 0%. The company is faceless and doesn’t care how much you abuse the worker bees as long as they get your money.

I don’t know what the answer is aside from not patronizing the company at all, but I know that’s not it.

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108 points

As a former employee… That does nothing. Crazies that spend 15 min to order some fries were common.

If you go at rush hour it can be annoying to the employee and other customers, but at the end of the day nobody will remember and you would have spent 20 min and 10 dollars (which is 9 dollars material profit for MacDonald).

Just. Don’t. Go. To. Macdonald’s.

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70 points

Just. Don’t. Go. To. Macdonald’s.

Best advice on the menu

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80 points

Just stop eating at McDonald’s.

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5 points

They call it mackers in Australia

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5 points

Maccas

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3 points

They call a quarter pounder ‘The Royal Cheese’ in France

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28 points

This kills the american

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8 points

Probably for the best.

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9 points

Unthinkable. He lives and breathes McDonald’s

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6 points

Deny

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5 points

I don’t know about other places but they haven’t had a counter for years round here. They have big screens that you go up to to order and pay, then you get a number and pick it up when called. Even if you wanted to do this, no one is going to listen to you trying to order at the kitchen.

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2 points

Entirely different country, but they still have a counter in addition to the screens; the counter is for when you want to pay cash

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-1 points

It always seems that with finance we take 2 steps forward and 1 step back. That’s why Bitcoin will never stop existing.

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1 point

They’re already in contact with US agents to bring Google to justice

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26 points

man, and i was gonna switch to graphene this christmas. if every app can just ban my OS, i might have to rethink this. i would use the website but they restrict so many things to apps now…

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8 points

Use a browser like Native Alpha or Hermit, which present a website like an app.

And if you use Bitwarden/Vaultwarden for your passwords, it can be pretty seamless.

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120 points
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Well, switching to GrapheneOS shows that you don’t care what those companies do, and that you’re willing to fight. It means those companies lose one more customer. The more people that use GrapheneOS, the more companies will be forced to support it.

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58 points

Honestly i didn’t even think of that. i’ll still switch then!

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19 points

Nice choice. You not switching is exactly what these companies wanted.

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20 points

I was about to switch bank because for a few days my current one (inadvertently) blocked it on grapheneOS. We sent them a few emails and they fixed in less than a week.

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5 points

I use a small local credit union that doesn’t appear on their supported list. It’s literally the only thing holding me back, I’m tempted to say fuck it anyway. But I wonder if it might work anyway…

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4 points
  1. Order a Pixel
  2. Flash GrapheneOS
  3. If it works, congratulations! If not, switch banks or revert to stock and return the phone.
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2 points

What’s the app name? I could install it and see what happens

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7 points

If nothing else can you use the browser?

I’ve used Hermit for years to present websites like an app, and am using Native Alpha on my new phone.

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15 points

TBF, this is the first time I’ve encountered an app not working - and it was before this. It’s just because of Google push towards monopoly via their Play Integrity API that’s ruining this.

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16 points

play “integrity” should be considered malware, any program that deliberately does something the user doesn’t want it to should.

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14 points

Well, Google is known for destroying its opposition.

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1 point

This has very little to do with Google. Custom OS’s in general are being restricted by these apps, not Graphene in particular. All custom OS’s and root access devices are inherently less secure, even if they are privacy focused OS’s.

In IT this is called a zero trust. You don’t trust anything you cannot verify yourself. And a user installed OS is not something anyone can verify other than the installing user. Obviously for your own security you have your own zero trust policy if you are using something like Graphene, but these companies aren’t making it more secure for you as a user, they’re covering their asses in case there are holes in security they cannot account for.

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4 points

I had Custom OSs installed before. My bank works fine, but there are apps that require Google Apps. I’d say that’s got pretty much to do with Google.

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0 points

You’re implying that Google is causing these apps to not support custom OSs. But it’s literally not true. These apps are just not supporting custom OSs because their businesses don’t want to support non-standard platforms for security purposes. Tons of banks do not support custom OSs. It has nothing to do with Google and everything to do with not trusting the user which is 100% the correct approach for cyber security.

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