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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

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EDIT: this probably isn’t him, but I’ll leave it up. the real account appears to be /u/mister_cactus

Unsure where to put this or if it’s even slightly relevant, but I’ve had some fun looking up the UH shooter guy.

I think I’ve found both his Reddit account and YouTube channel (it’s been renamed a couple times). Kinda just wanted to see how much I could dig up for the hell of it. Big surprise that he’s completely nuts

He got raked over the coals for this: https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/126vycx/why_scientists_cant_be_trusted/

https://api.pullpush.io/reddit/search/comment/?author=burntbabylon

edit: reasoning and more details

here’s my chain of reasoning to get to the youtube channel:

  • his goodreads review quotes a reddit comment
  • the reddit comment is in a small thread where the OP deleted their account
  • since the thread is small, the OP has probably seen most of the comments
  • the wayback machine shows the author as burntbabylon
  • that user linked to and defended a video from a very small youtube channel and everyone else on /r/collapse thought it was crazy
  • some of the ted kaczynski analysis videos came out right before his goodreads review

his early channel had some thumbnails made for him by ‘bastizopilled’, an ironic/unironic “bastizo futurist” whose does interviews in a black mask with a gun on him. he leads right into a bunch of other groypers and the guy in the screenshot I posted below. kind of wonder if that ‘black mask with a gun’ aesthetic influenced the clothes he brought to the shooting.

the channel names he used in 2023:

  • @NickAkritas, Nick Akritas (January)
  • @NicksEssays, Nick’s Essays (January ~20th)
  • @AntiTechCabin, Anti-Tech Cabin (early March)
  • @Cabin_Club, AntiTechCabin
  • @Cabin_Club, Cabin Club (March ~18th)
  • @CabinProductions_, Cabin Productions (June)
  • @Laconian_, Laconian (September)
  • @NicholasLaconian, Laconian (November)

here’s a big pile of crazy tags he wrote on one of those videos (were people still writing tags in their video descriptions in 2023?):

unabomber, kaczynski, ted kaczynski, unabomber cabin, kasinski, kazinski, industrial society and and its future, unabomber manifesto, the industrial revolution and its consequences, transhumanism, futurism, anprim, anarchoprimitivism, anarchism, leftism, liberalism, chad haag, nick akritas, gerbert johnson, hamza, anti tech collective, what did ted kaczynski believe, john doyle, hasanabi, self improvement, politics, jreg, philosophy, funny tiktok, kaczynski edit, ted kaczynski edit, zoomer, doomer, A.I. art, artifical intelligence, elon musk, AI art, return to tradition, embrace masculinity, reject modernity, reject modernity embrace masculinity, reject modernity embrace tradition, jReg, Greg Guevara, sam hyde, oversocialized, oversocialization, blackpilled, modernity, the industrial revolution, self improvement


edit again: holy shit these people all suck. assuming the youtube channel is the shooter, he’s a friend-of-a-friend of this guy:

and if that’s true, he’d be a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend of nick fuentes

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Friends don’t let friends OSINT. That said… people have found his twitter (still up), goodreads (deleted), github (still up, already full of troll github issues), linkedin (I guess deleted), an interview about has school games club (deleted), his game development studio which published one iphone game (facebook profile deleted).

His twitter account links to his linktree, but that only contains some inscrutable emoji rather than any links so hasn’t really been reported:

💻🤓 - 🥷🏃‍♂️🧘‍♂️🏋️ - 📚🤓 - 🦍🧠 - 🍄🧠 - 🐄👨‍⚖️ - ☯️

(I’m sure his inevitable groupies will be puzzling over the meaning of cow judge for years to come)

The youtube page you found is less talked about, though a reddit comment on one of them said “anyone else thinking burntbabylon is Luigi?”. I will point out that the rest of his online presence doesn’t really paint him as “anti tech” overall, but who can say.

NYTimes also reports a steam account, facebook account, and instagram account (couldn’t find any of these).

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/nyregion/uhc-suspect-video-games.html

Other NYTimes articles are now investigating his health issues (back surgery, etc)

Edit: Look on reddit.com/r/spinalfusion where they discuss his spinal fusion x-ray and mention his (suspended) reddit account’s name.

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🌏💧✋🕋🗡🚀🏜☀️🌡🌶💯🚱⏳🌅🌑😡💉😱😈💀💥🌛🌙🐭💥🚶🏻〰🐛️⌛️👳🙏💥😴🛌😳💥🐛💥👊⚔👑

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“and that was just the casual sunday”

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Friends don’t let friends OSINT

i can stop any time I want I swear

The youtube page you found is less talked about, though a reddit comment on one of them said “anyone else thinking burntbabylon is Luigi?”. I will point out that the rest of his online presence doesn’t really paint him as “anti tech” overall, but who can say.

apparently there was an imposter youtube channel too I missed

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-death-investigation-12-9-24#cm4hp9zyk000m3b6nobdudr15

not sure what his official instagram is, but I saw a mention of the instagram account @nickakritas_ around the beginning of his channel (assuming it’s his). didn’t appear in the internet archive though.

also saw these twitter & telegram links to promote his channel, the twitter one was deleted or nuked (I use telegram to talk with friends who have it but the lack of content removal + terrible encryption means I don’t touch unknown telegram links with a 10ft pole, so I have no idea what’s in there):

I missed a couple videos which survived on the internet archive but I couldn’t make it through 5 seconds of any of them. one of them (“How Humans Are Becoming Dumber”) cites that tech priest guy Gwern Branwen and “Anti-Tech” was gone from the channel name by then. he changed the channel name a lot so maybe he veered away from it being an anti-tech channel?

edit: channel names were a little wrong, I put them in the parent comment

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Speaking of imposters, there’s a screenshot of a fake manifesto substack post (since deleted) which has been linked a couple times on reddit.

The only problem is it was first published to substack over four hours after the arrest was reported according to the post’s own json-ld metadata. People be trying to stir things up.

Amatuers. Can’t even publish the post early and edit it later for that extra bit of plausible deniability.

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tomatopaste43:

If this isn’t a troll, then it’s someone in dire need of psychological help.

redhatfilm:

leaning toward the latter.

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just delivered a commission on why bitcoin is very like hawk tuah

this season’s word is: kleptokakistocracy

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Someone made a… thing where you run all your mastodon toots through a prompt before posting them and thought it would be a great idea to let us lemmy users know. Comes with ugly autoplag image on the github. The names of the “bots” are hilarious: “ennui” for low-effort posts; I don’t think that word means what they think it means. “Legion” for automatic spam posts. Cause that’s not a dogwhistle or anything.

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“Legion” for automatic spam posts. Cause that’s not a dogwhistle or anything.

Their name is Legion, for there are too fucking many.

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Im going to assume they meant it as a reference to the Castlevania boss.

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So the code doesn’t make use of any LLM, it’s just incredibly basic shit like string.toUpper(). It’s curious how much the author wants to make it seem like it does. Even one guy on lemmy asks

Is it so that you don’t have to read replies?

It will be added

Aargh, what’s the point??

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Yeah, I’m struggling to understand the fucking purpose here o.O. It feels like someone desperately trying to make anything for their portfolio or smt

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So it turns out the healthcare assassin has some… boutique… views. (Yeah, I know, shocker.) Things he seems to be into:

  • Lab-grown meat
  • Modern architecture is rotten
  • Population decline is an existential threat
  • Elon Musk and Peter Thiel

How soon until someone finds his LessWrong profile?

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StRev was calling him TPOT adjacent and woodgrains was having a bit of a panic over it.

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Do you have a link? I’m interested. (Also, I see you posted something similar a couple hours before I did. Sorry I missed that!)

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“Our righteous warriors are only supposed to kill brown people and women, not captains of industry!!”

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dust specks vs CEOs

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tfw the Holy Book (Atlas Shrugged) was misinterpreted.

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Thats a very real viewpoint being pushed by the Thiel adjacent far righters.

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It’s so embarrassing to watch upper-middle class (at best!) rationalists get their panties in a twist over Luigi. At least the right wing talking heads are getting paid, these guys are just mad he did things instead of tweeting about things.

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“My heavens, our self-regarding supremacist ideology can’t possibly imply violence… can it???”

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the absolute state of american politics: rentseeker ceo gets popped by a libertarian

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Someone else said it, but for someone completely accustomed to a life of easy privilege, having it suddenly disappear can be utterly intolerable.

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We should expect more of this to come. The ascendant right wing is pushing policies that only deliver for people who are already stinking rich. Even if 99% of those who vote that way go along with the propaganda line in the face of their own disappointment, that’s still a lot of unhappy people, who are not known for intellectual consistency or calm self-reflection, in a country overflowing with guns. All it takes is one ammosexual who decides that his local Congressman has been co-opted by the (((globalists))), you know?

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there’s gotta be many more than 1% of right to far-right wingers clocking that that ambient suckiness is result of republican policies or profit squeezing, it’s just that i expected them to be way more apathetic

qanon and weird nazis were around for some time and they definitely can get worse, but i don’t think it’s it

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also, killing CEOs is more of traditional activity of more ideologically consistent far left groups, like RAF. can’t have shit in late capitalism

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@TinyTimmyTokyo @BlueMonday1984 lab-gown mest is fine tho. I’d be all over it if it ever works.
But yeah he’d fit right in on LW I’m sure

Edited based on later chat: eh
https://med-mastodon.com/@noodlemaz/113641637798676074

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Same. I’m not being critical of lab-grown meat. I think it’s a great idea.

But the pattern of things he’s got an opinion on suggests a familiarity with rationalist/EA/accelerationist/TPOT ideas.

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one of the best articles I’ve ever read was an inch by inch teardown of the entire concept of mass produced lab grown meat: https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale/ . it’s never, ever going to work at scale and I’d go so far as to say it’s the food equivalent of all the usual tech grifts we talk about here

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@sc_griffith thanks, that is a cool piece! Indeed having done plenty cell culture myself and seeing those shockingly astronomical meat consumption figures, the solutions seem much clearer to me. I doubt LGM will be a useful reality in my lifetime, maybe far in the future. So, people need to stop eating meat, and eat plants instead.

Many are already doing so! I’ve mostly stopped with meat myself, just some fish to go.

But we need political will. Change of culture. Sanctions on the US, etc :/

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if luigi incident kicks off next miracle tech sv bubble after ai this would be the single dumbest outcome out of this entire situation

so far tpot got exposure and fake manifesto included altmed dogwhistle right in the title

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reddit just launched an LLM integrated into the site. hardly any point going through what garbage these things are at this point but of course it failed the first test I gave it

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