57 points

As someone who used to make apps, but run Android myself, here are the things I usually hear

  • App quality tends to be worse on Android
  • I have a MacBook, airpods, and Apple watch
  • I don’t know if a good Android phone that has the same camera quality and longevity as an iPhone

The subtle reason is also status. People feel rich/different with an iPhone

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  • I have had a lot of bad experiences with paid iOS apps, very little with free apps on Android - and even if so, there are dozens of FOSS alternatives
  • Even worse
  • Depends on which phone you choose; my 200€ Moto does have a pretty bad camera, but pretty good specs overall
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18 points

Apple def doesn’t have the status symbol effect that it used to.

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3 points

It’s still there for some other Apple products, especially outside the US. I went to a generic electronics shop to buy some headphones and mentioned they’re for my new MacBook, and the worker replied “Congratulations”

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3 points

Then everyone clapped

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1 point

At least in quebec among teens, it absolutely does

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6 points

I considered the jump to iPhone and did some testing on one of my kids iPhones. The common apps were essentially identical to my android, but the weird thing is free apps on iPhone all seem to just captive webpages or some other crap quality thing. You have to pay for good apps on iPhone. On android the free stuff is consistently better. Just my experience.

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It’s mostly that apple products are a pain to use with non apple ones. They even have a proprietary image format so something as simple as bulk copying your photos over can be a pain (each has to be manually exported through the GUI).

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11 points

Select the photos you want -> Save to Files (will convert to JPG) or Export Unmodified Originals (will stay HEIC)

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4 points

HEIC is not proprietary.

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159 points

My six year old iPhone still receives software updates

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32 points

This is why I made the switch from android to iPhone too

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1 point

Tbf new android phones are now getting ~8 year of software updates, plus you can install lineage to get more

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-22 points

Good to hear, but I don’t think I will have a phone for as long as six years, because for one thing the battery probably will have become unusable by then - they can only be charged so many times.

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29 points

You know you can replace the battery, right? Like, 10 minutes with some basic repair knowledge and you can have it done. I usually do a battery replacement on my iPhone ever 2 years just because it will inevitably slow down and the battery life becomes unusable.

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And that’s boring plus ruining the sealing

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9 points

No way. You need more than 10 minutes and way more than “basic” repair knowledge.

Iphones are by design extremely hard to repair.

Proprietary screws, glued in components (which needs to be removed and reapplied) and battery management components which need to be resoldered to the new battery so that the phone accepts it.

Its been a while since i have repaired an iphone but i doubt its gotten better.

If you can do it in 10 minutes I will gove you 10 bucks though.

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-43 points

But updates for what? You gain very little from security because nobody is targeting you and no new major features, so what’s it really worth? Maybe I’m wrong about my perception of those things though… I’ve used 2 androids for around 8 years each no problem.

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31 points

You gain very little from security because nobody is targeting you…

It’s not about being targeted, it’s about being caught in the big fishing net that scammers are throwing. You don’t have to be targeted to have security concerns.

If a phone isn’t receiving regular security updates, I won’t use it. My Pixel 5a just got replaced because it’s coming up on end of support. My new Pixel has 7 years of support, so I feel a lot better about keeping it longer.

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8 points

My Pixel 4a has LineageOS on it, and is installing an update from two days ago right now.

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18 points

Updates to secure the operating systems are worth it. Apple has a fantastic track record of supporting the older phones. It shows they’ve really planned ahead and thought about the entire lifecycle of their device. They will also accept your old phone after its life is complete and responsibly recycle it.

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7 points

Correct. You are wrong about your perception.

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27 points

As an android user, I looked at the phone list for iOS 18, and I was jealous.

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17 points

Google and Samsung now provide updates for 7 years, and Fairphone provides updates for 8 years.

From what I can tell, Apple doesn’t promise a set number of years for updates. The iPhone x got about 5 years of updates before support was dropped, but Apple will occasionally give security updates to older devices if they’re severe enough.

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With Fairphone 5, they guarantee at least 8 years of software updates but they will actually try 10 years! [1]

And Apple was recently forced to disclose their software support commitment in the UK due to regulations. Apple guarantees at least 5 years of software updates, which is less than Google, Samsung, and Fairphone. Apple is no longer the leader in software support! [2]


  1. https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/9979180437393-Fairphone-OS ↩︎

  2. https://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-software-support-commitment-3449135/ ↩︎

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I went from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 13 . I had replaced the battery on the iPhone 7 already, it still was getting updates but physically the charge port started wearing out and the NFC stopped working .

Was a good run, phone was super reliable needed no tweaking to work.

I have also been using iPhones since the iPhone 3G. Long before it existed on Android it was very easy to movie everything from your old phone to the new one, first via iTunes desktop then later via iCloud.

Family sharing for apps and family backups pooled in iCloud is also very convenient.

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32 points
  • Cross-device integration/the Apple ecosystem. I use a Mac for my userland computing, and the ease with which it works together with my phone is a killer feature. Also in this category is integration with my family’s Apple devices.
  • The software ecosystem. Apple’s first party apps and services are really nice across the board, and once again the ecosystem integration is the single biggest reason I use an iPhone. (the user facing apps, at least–Xcode and everything related to it are hot trash).
  • Purely subjective, but Android is ugly to me. The hardware, the OS(es), and the apps just look bad to my eye. The iPhone looks and feels nice in a way that I haven’t experienced in an Android product.
  • I don’t trust Google and I can’t be bothered to spend any time configuring my phone. I spend too much of my life installing shit and tinkering with config already; I want a phone that just works out of the box.
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Pretty much the same for me. I try to do zero business with Google. I tried android several times and it just felt like a rough draft of a real product.

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