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“The billionaires said I could be one of them if I let them live, so I sacrificed the biosphere.” - Millions of morons

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it’s more horrifying than that. they’re fine with the boot on their neck as long as they can keep their boot on someone else. they don’t think they’re temporarily embarassed millionaires. they think the rich deserve to be rich, and the suffering deserve to suffer, and they’ll vote based on making sure the suffering continue to be in pain

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Their wealth will trickle down and then we can save the environment! - Jordan Peterson (effectively)

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Is wealth a euphemism for piss?

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Might as well be.

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12 points

Inaccurate. There is no lever, and the billionaires should be at least on the tram if not driving it.

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Sounds like snowpiercer and in that case it’s a mutiny

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Problem is, while you can do as much homicide as you want, you cant easily undo the systems we have in place.

So many cars run on gasoline. Are you gonna ban them all effective immediately. Yea see how Covid lockdowns worked, people would just riot, if you tried this.

Not to mention, the entire powergrid of many countries, including the USA, runs mostly on fossil fuels.

All the planes that runs on fossil fuels? Are we also banning plane travel?

Cargo ships that run on fossil fuels? Can we even attempt to ban those?

And so much more.

My point is, not trying to be pessimistic, but it seems a bit late.

We can stop more damage, but the damage has been done.

The trolly problem happened like sometime before 1950. The person near the lever already made the decision, we are living in its aftermath.

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The point is that we don’t need to ban airplanes, just the people who are using private jets to fly every other day (that’s below average for a billionaire).

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Sure. Here’s some data:

https://ourworldindata.org/global-aviation-emissions

We are at >1 billion tons of CO2 from airplanes.

And according to:

https://www.iflscience.com/private-jet-carbon-emissions-surge-by-46-percent-in-just-four-years-76695

We are at 15.6 million tons of CO2 from private jets.

How do you plan to get rid of the remaining 98.5% of emissions after banning private jets?

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Billionaires also disproportionately invest in fossil fuels and their carbon footprint is the size of a small country. Once you include the mega yachts, their many compounds and all the other excesses encouraged by malignant wealth. It might not fully solve the problem, but the rest would be made easier without them owning the politicians, courts, and media.

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8 points

It’s hard because the lever doesn’t say which way the trolley is going

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Spoiler alert: the lever doesn’t do anything.

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There is a large complex system of gears and pulleys constraining the lever-puller.

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