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Bad research based on subjective opinion? I dont see how anyone would see blockchain in itself as useless. It provides a verification method without the use of a centralized system. Are all peer-to-peer systems useless now? Its not to be used as a tool for everything. It will not fix everything. I’d be more interested in research of what happens when reactionary practices are used. Such as using blockchain just because it’s the hot new trend without thoroughly thinking about the consequences of such actions. blockchain = bad / blockchain = good is not good enough, each implementation needs to be studied independently and answers derived from that. Replace blockchain with AI and it’s the same.

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I dont see how anyone would see blockchain in itself as useless.

it’s chewing through tremendous amounts of power and water to improve…? what?

I have yet to see the upside.

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It’s a way of verification and trust in a system where no one trusts any central authority, but does trust an algorithm. That seems too specific to ever actually be useful. People will end up relying on services or instructions that make the system digestible and usable for them, but as long as they still rely on those giving the instructions, the same problem arises.

And when an example case is brought up, it’s always one central authority that is pushing the idea - and could achieve the same more easily and without power waste using a central server.

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I mean, if one party pushes for use of blockchain, you’d just need to trust that specific system (algorithm, network…) and not explicitly the party pushing for it.

I also wouldn’t call it power ‘waste’ since it does useful work - confirmation. It may be more inefficient compared to a centralized authority though. There are other ways of doing confirmations than proof-of-work as well, though each have their own drawbacks - just like a centralized system does,

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HA! you think the pentagon is in control? You think the people responsible for this debacle are actually following orders? These are all absconders and expats who are doing all this garbage. Pentagon is seemingly powerless to stop them.

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This posted to the main section, not as a reply.

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The Blockchain is amazingly useful, that’s why the establishment did their best to make sure people associate with incels and little monkey pictures to ruin its credibility. A banking system running on Blockchain is one where the Pentagon can’t lose trillions of dollars annually.

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Ah yes, let’s just make everyone’s financial transactions public record. That couldn’t possibly be an insanely dangerous thing to do.

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Hmm I don’t think that’s necessarily what OP is proposing. There are cryptos where transactions are anonymous.

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How are they going to implement it, I guess by linking your identity to your porn-blockchain key.

I guess there’s no better way to track your habits.

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make sure people associate with incels and little monkey pictures to ruin its credibility

yall 100% did that to yourselves

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Y’all?

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A banking system running on Blockchain

Is an astronomically terrible idea. It:

  • would use as much electricity as an entire country
  • payments/transfers would be both much slower AND much more expensive than via a bank
  • would have no protection against fraud. You got scammed? Your money’s gone. You paid for something online and it never arrived? Too bad
  • would have no way to stop money laundering
  • would have no way to help people who forgot their password, they’d just lose their life savings permanently
  • would tie up a bunch of capital, preventing reinvestment and growth. There would be no way to get a bank loan to buy a house for example
  • the list goes on
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You seem to have conflated blockchain technology with cryptocurrency. Most cryptocurrencies use blockchain technology, but that’s not it’s only use case. Literally every problem you have listed relates to crypto and not blockchain itself. Blockchain is just a ledger of transactions. A private company using it to say, keep track of their inventory, or track their payments, or use it for document control, can implement it however they want.

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Ok so firstly you’re not the OP I was replying to, so neither of us know for certain whether they were talking about replacing the banking system with a decentralised currency vs keeping the existing centralised private banks and just having them use a blockchain as their database. I assumed the former because of their wording (“replace the banking system”), and because the latter offers no advantages that I know of.

Secondly if you think a blockchain would offer some advantages over other more efficient write only databases, I’d be interested to know what those are, because to me if you’re not running a decentralised system then you’re only getting the downsides of blockchain (such as it being single threaded, slow, and space inefficient) without any of the upsides.

For some background, I’m well aware of how both blockchains and crypto work, having been obsessed with them for a little while in 5 or 6 years ago like many of us were before becoming disillusioned. I’ve also got professional experience as a developer on both immutable databases and banking ledgers.

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Relative point to point

  • which Blockchain are we talking here? How does it compare to the current banking infrastructure?
  • again, which one? How does it compare to the current pricing?
  • escrow is a thing, someone can build up a PayPal equivalent on top of a Blockchain, the list goes on
  • the current system doesn’t do great here, some Blockchains makes it way more traceable, in fact
  • skill issue, but also solvable with a PayPal equivalent
  • not a fact, what does this even mean?
  • does it?

You could say the Linux kernel is an astronomically terrible idea because it doesn’t do anything…but it is just the platform, the good comes from what people build on top of it that add all these quality of life features you miss

Buy ydy

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Bitcoin only consumes the energy people put in it. It literaly would adjust to only consume 20W if that’s what was available. But that also means it can absord an infinite amount of excess energy if necessary

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Just to elaborate here. You are describing one implementation of a blockchain that provides a cryptocurrency. Blockchain is literally just another form of a database. It’s just that it can contain traits that would allow the database to be shared and distributed unlike typical databases. Currently there are some companies that are utilizing blockchain for their inventory systems. They aren’t using any more energy than they would with a typical system. They are just doing it to keep an unchanging record of past transactions which helps with fraud and loss prevention.

P.S. Money laundering using a system that is publicly distributed and has every transaction involving usd paired with an ID, social security number and enough pictures of your face to make a 3D model is genuinely idiotic.

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payments/transfers would be both much slower AND much more expensive than via a bank

Not necessarily. You could have a federated system, where only big players like banks participate in larger blockchain, like banks already do with forex and wire transfers and pay ridiculous fees to clearing agencies, and clear out local transfers locally, possibly inside their own smaller and much faster blockchain.

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All your points are about an obsolete idea of Bitcoin, a PoW public blockchain. A PoS private blockchain with private keys not handled by the users would invalidate your entire list.

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All my points? That’s a bit rich

You make a good point that PoS would solve one of the issues I raised which is electricity usage.

In theory it could also increase throughput and reduce costs, but: a) in practice that hasn’t happened yet despite years of development, b) it’s never going to be as efficient as a centralised system because of the extra overheads necessary to decentralise it, so that point still stands

All my other points still stand as well, plus the additional problems PoS creates to do with centralisation of power

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PoS centralizes the authority to whoever is richest. That’s literally worse than how paper currency with semi corrupt government works.

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You mean PoS, which feature is literally that the more you have, the more you can stake, and the more you can earn in return? So basically the system that has built-in wealth concentration?

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That’s the one I use for prison stuff right? You know spare key, toothbrush, razor, cellphone the basics so you still got room to spare.

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Your prison wallet is closer to porn than to blockchain, I suppose.

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What about all the games where you can shoot people? Why is that okay for kids, but a little tit here and there will destroy their view of the world?

Didn’t these things get their starts by sucking on tits? So why hide them now?

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There is this famous spanish porn actor. Nacho vidal, who says that we would have a better world is kids would play around with plastic dildos instead of plastic guns.

I don’t know the playing with plastic dildos, but it is true how wild is the normalization of giving kids a replica of a human killing instrument to play with.

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well you can’t have fun running around all summer squirting water at your friends from a dildo

at least, not without getting some truly vile looks from passersby

also it’s just intrinsically fun to try to shoot each other with harmless little darts that let you know you’ve been hit but not do anything else

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well you can’t have fun running around all summer squirting water at your friends from a dildo

Speak for your fucking self

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And you think the solution to that is to force me to use a government porn tracking service?

How about you be responsible for your kids, and I’ll be responsible for mine. I do not care what your kids do on the internet.

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Until your daughter comes home with a boyfriend with a fucked up sense of what sex is and ruins her day/week/month/year/life.

I’m certainly not pro government tracking anything I do, let alone porn watching, but if I see how my own kids get exposed to it through friends. No matter how much I try to educate them, friends still show them absolute vile stuff…

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Let’s pair it with proper sex ed. Destigmatise sex work, break the taboos, but also teach people what is and isn’t okay or healthy, how arousal works for different sexes and why their dick isn’t God’s gift to womankind.

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