Modlog, which includes a site ban—something only admins can do.

The community bans also include communities that aren’t moderated by any instance admins, and some that are only moderated by a single person who likely isn’t aware of actions taken under their community’s name.

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Lemmystan.

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So does anyone know good leftist instances that aren’t predominantly cantankerous tankies? Besides slrpnk, those guys seem cool.

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Slrpnk thinks that the only way forward is communism. I’d side step them too.

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It’s my impression of solarpunk, as a general movement moreso than slrpnk specifically, is that the focus is more on local community mutualism than Soviet style central planning. I also think the only way forward is communism, I just think there are many intermediate steps necessary to get to stable communism on a national scale. Strong unions to worker co-ops to market socialism, and so on.

My main ideological gripe with the tankie instances is the impatient insistence on skipping all those steps that build informed consent through a gradual raising of class consciousness in the proletariat, and going straight to a national scale revolution.

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dbzer0 is a pretty good instance. Sadly, there are no good leftist instances other than slrpnk and dbzer0.

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Yeah I generally have decent experience with them as well.

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Man… I really wish Kbin was the one who took off instead. I know lots of people turned off by the fact that Lemmy has lots of suspicious folks like this.

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Does it have mobile clients?

Also they would just move to kbin

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Use mbin? It’s the server I’m on.

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I really liked Kbin, it just kept breaking.

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The community bans also include communities that aren’t moderated by any instance admins, and some that are only moderated by a single person who likely isn’t aware of actions taken under their community’s name.

FYI, any site bans will also automatically generate community bans for all local communities that user has ever interacted with.
It’s simply the current behavior for site bans and not an admin going through communities to ban that user.
That doesn’t mean the site ban is legitimate, just that the community-bans are inherent to any site-bans.

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Honestly it’s not really a good way of doing it in my opinion, seems like it could potentially spam a lot of ban messages if a user interacted with a lot of communities. Would be better if they worked on federating site bans with every community, and also federating the message in the global modlog instead of mod banned user do mod banned user from lemmy.domain.tld or whatever the instance domain is. That way information is still communicated and you don’t get problems with them being able to interact in communities on a server they were banned from. All while not spamming the modlog.

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Yea I’m not saying it’s a great way to do this, but that’s the lemmy way right now.
I think it is meant as a workaround, maybe someone implements something better eventually.

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I’m hoping they implement federation of site bans, I’ve seen a lot of people banned from the site the community is hosted on still replying and pushing their disgusting rhetoric in comments of posts and it still continues to be federated because they don’t get blocked from those communities from a site ban.

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That’s kind of a weird way of doing it, but good to know thanks!

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Yeah this is becoming a real problem with tech communities being hosted on .ml which is way to sensitive about anything remotely close to common sense. I’m very careful not to post anything political on .ml and I’m 100% threading on a knifes edge if I ever say or post anything regarding news or politics there. I will get site banned for sure.

instances apart from national ones should be more specialized to avoid this.

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I’ve just blocked them at this point, not worth my time

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They seem to be banning anything anti Russia just based on your modlog, buy you also have a hard time following their rule2: be nice. So I can kinda see where they are comming from as well.

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Tbf, “Rule” 2 has an unwritten clause at the end, it’s actually “Be nice, unless you’re a tankie shill then you have the power of the mods/admins enabling you being a giant fistula to liberals anyone who disagrees with you in any thread.”

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Yes, Rule2 look very much like a “agree or be banned”-rule.

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Oh, I wasn’t the one who was banned. I’m here to call out questionable use of moderation powers by the lemmy.ml admins. If the admin felt that the user violated instance rules, the recourse was to issue a site ban—which they did. Throwing in 20 community bans after that for the same time frame is petty and unnecessary.

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My bad. Iäm not saying that lemmy.ml is acting in bad faith, their Rule 2 looks very much like a catch-all for anything they do not like. But the user in question could have used better wording.

20 community bans is indeed not warranted.

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