His threat was directed at countries in the so-called BRIC alliance, which consists of Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran and the United Arab Emirates.

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He doesn’t understand, he just does what Putin says

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Is there even a point to putting tariffs on Russian goods with all those sanctions on Russia?

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Oh - he does. It’s the one most devastating things that could happen to the us. Last time someone tried they ended up dead. Gadhaffi did at least

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I think there’s an argument for what Trump is saying. Tariffs mean that Americans will chose product alternatives that don’t have those tariffs attatched. Possibly from other countries outside of BRICS.

IT also gives him leverage in negotiations (eg. He can offer to life the tariffs)… And gives him a way to appear to improve the economy (“oh look, things got cheaper and spending accelerated because I lifted my tariffs, ergo I’m good at economic management”).

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An argument for what Trump was saying?

Like, are you for real? Trump doesn’t have the slightest fucking clue; and as far as what Trump is saying:

You’re so full of shit. Like, seriously, tell me what Trump was saying? Dementia Patient in Chief doesn’t even know, so wow, you must be pretty smart… Or you know, maybe not.

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The election result is a very touchy and emotional subject for most Americans. On the left and on the right.

Ironically the right are less destabilized by their emotions. The left are the ones shaken and unable to recover even to discuss what’s going on.

That’s a problem. That’s part of the loss. It’s understandable it’s why he won (there was an emotional game played on the left and right by Trump’s campaign). Which is a slightly different topic than why the establishment dems lost. But both pertain to an very emotional election.

…so I understand you are rendered incapable as far as discussing these things. Your emotions are understandable. Someone in power is finally being open about selling your democracy, your rights, to fascists. That would be upsetting.

But that’s got little to do with me being able to see how his tariff plan benefits him. Nor does being able to see what he’s doing make me “full of shit”.

But I understand it’s rightfully a sore point for any American who is a reasonably intelligent person.

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Umm. Ok. You’re fucking stupid.

Like, seriously, if I wanna know today’s propaganda, I still would not ask you. Discuss, umm, anything with you…???

Oh, yeah. You must be a fucking idiot…

And, one more thing: what did Trump say, you stupid jackass? Oh wait, I don’t give a shit so shut the fuck up…

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In your mind, does he care what the costs will be to consumers? Or does he just want these things in place because they might benefit him?

Because I’m saying the latter. I’m saying he’s manipulative and self-interested.

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No. The only thing that will happen is that US prices will sky rocket. Just check out the price of washing machines under his first presidency.

https://youtu.be/_-eHOSq3oqI?si=91ailoBQ2DadAuYC

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I didn’t say prices wouldn’t go up. Byt I don’t think someone like him worries or cares about how much people will have to pay to replace their washing machines. Do you think he cares about that?

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No of course he doesn’t care as it doesn’t affect him. He is rich and don’t give a single fuck about anyone but himself. The whole giving him a chance to negotiate is also BS. China and other countries will never pay these tarrifs and therefore it will be more expensive because the cost will be higher for the end consumer

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He’s not that smart. He bankrupted his own casino. You know, the business where people just give you their money.

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I don’t recall saying he was smart.

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With what choices?

Also, there’s never an argument for him.

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The choice to remove his tariff. To clarify I’m not saying there’s an argument it’s a good thing, I’m saying I can see his (self-interested) logic.

Of course I also understand people aren’t able to look at his ideas yet, as post election hatred is still high, and should continue as such as he is a hyper capitalist willing to sell America to internal fascists (and probably some parts of it to external fascists too).

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A lot of people don’t seem to grasp this idea.

If Tramp goes through with his original plan on applying a minimum of 20% tarrifs to all imports, there are exactly zero choices.

Consumers eat the 20% price for imports, and local manufacturers raise their prices to match because they no longer have any competition at their old price point. To make it worse, wherever domestic production isn’t able to meet demand, products will still have to be imported.

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Does it feel like Trump just learned the word “tariff” a couple weeks ago or is that just me?

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No he definitely learned it years ago, but he’s a simple boy, he can’t hold too many concepts in his head. It’s mostly just rape, fraud, and now tariffs

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That “simple boy” has won two presidential elections and has avoided jail even though he has been convicted multiple times.

Underestimate your opponents at your own peril.

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Nah, he really is fucking dumb. Not to say he isn’t dangerous. But I don’t believe for a second he is the architect of his rise

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You must’ve missed last term

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Did you really just forget his entire first presidency?

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I try hard to.

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The amount of goldfish brain that goes on around here is staggering. It’s no wonder they constantly get away with shit.

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It also feels like he means his „100% tariff“ takes all the money.

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Let’s keep it that way. Imagine if he discovers one day he could go over 100%.

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‘Trade wars are easy to win’

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Remember how China’s CCP keeps trying to have its way by using threats to bully other nations into submission and all it does is rally everyone against them instead? Watch the world turn its back to the US even faster now.

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That’s the plan.

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Yup. The first Trump presidency is why North Korea is blowing up roads and sending weapons and military units to Russia. Just read the open letter Kim Jong-Un sent to Trump after their Infamous meeting. Kim essentially called Trump a lier and that Kim wouldn’t be made the fool again. Trump spent less than 12 hours with Kim and destroyed any possibility of reunification of Korea. Dude is a cancer

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What the world must learn is that, in the American system, the word of a sitting president or from his secretaries are worth next to nothing in the medium to long term (ie beyond 8 years) until it passes congress and becomes law. I would say the world is a sucker for believing that promises made by the executive would stick beyond their own terms

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I’m sure this will help drive BRICS closer together as they feel attacked by America. Allowing Russia to poach powerful allies away from the US.

Trump must be Putins greatest dream.

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Yeah it would be extremely funny (and probably bad) if he accidentally own-goal’ed this.

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Accidentally?

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Yes of course. What do you think Trump wants? He wants people kissing ass, he wants groveling, he wants adoration.

Everything else that he does is clearly designed to get that, and if it has side effects, he just doesn’t care, because he’s too powerful to care.

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Yeah, Trump ending the dollar as the reserve currency would be a fitting legacy.

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