Does it feel like your X account belongs to you and you can do whatever you want with it? That’s not true, according to a new court filing from the social media company formerly known as Twitter. It’s an argument that X is making in order to throw a wrench in The Onion’s recent purchase of InfoWars, the conspiracy theory media company run by Alex Jones. And it’s a great reminder that you don’t actually own what you think you own in the digital age.

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I mean, if someone lets me into their house, points me to a whiteboard with a pen and tells me to write whatever I want so the other people in the house can read it…
Do I own the whiteboard? Or the pen? Or have control over any of it?

No. The owner of the house can lock me out and wipe off or change what I wrote at their leisure.

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You do have some control, in the form of copyright. Also the analogy doesn’t hold up well since you’re not using their “pen” and they only let you reach inside through the window. And the audience is outside the house.

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Except when you enter the home, you accepted the TOS that transfers copyright to the owner of the home.

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Nope.

as a user, “you retain your rights to any Content you submit, post or display on or through the Services. What’s yours is yours you own your Content (and your photos and videos are part of the Content),” although you also grant Twitter a license to use the content, which authorizes it “to make your Content available to the rest of the world and to let others do the same.” Based on this language, other twitter users are also licensed to copy and redistribute your posts by “retweeting” them.

https://copyrightalliance.org/faqs/tweets-protected-copyright/

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And to continue that analogy- Twitter didn’t assign the name, the user created it so they hold copyright on the name.

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A better analogy is i hand you a bullhorn and you shout at randos.

Do i own your words, even though it’s my bullhorn? No.

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Depends, actually.
If you lend it to me privately, no. If you hand it to me on a stage, kinda yes.

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No but somebody else can own the creator of what was written on the board. That might be a bit weird in today’s terms if it’s a person, but if it’s a company that wrote that stuff it can legally become somebody else’s, which is what is happening with Infowars.

Twitter has always allowed a company to own their own account, and even transfer it and be used by multiple people. For example how Biden’s account is used by his staff. But now X starts meddling with this specific case, which is very questionable.

And if you’re going to say that “it’s his own account”; lawyers were saying that his “personal brand” is too heavily intertwined with Infowars and that it should be part of the Infowars brand.

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He does. Same with any other platform you do not “own” your account. You have credentials to login to an account you created.

This should not be news to anyone. This applies to all social media, all entertainment, and every other account you use online.

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Which is why it’s really important to have some trust /reputation if using these services.

Why anyone would use a service run by a fascist entitled madman who literally represents the very worst version of humanity is beyond me and they deserve whatever they get.

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I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, you are correct.

The platform owns the platform.

You have given the platform permission to use anything on the platform however they want.

They own the content you put on the platform.

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They own the content you put on the platform.

This will depend on the terms of service agreement. Some of them try to get away with this, while others just give themselves an irrevocable license to use content you publish on their platform.

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6 points

That pic, though: Peak American alpha males.

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alpha

Unpredictable behavior, unfit for the general public to interact with.

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8 points

It’s amazing how many “bro” dudes are riding their dicks.

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You mean rich spoiled man-children who are nothing more than insecure adolescent tweens going through puberty and having sexually frustrated tantrums because girls just laugh at them, and their narcissism is so all-consuming that their only emotion is disdain and goal in all the world is more and more self-gratification and the insatiable pursuit of total control of everything, because they know deep down they will never ever be the recipients of genuine respect or admiration.

Yeah that’s what I thought you said. Slight faux pas.

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Fake tan. Fake hair.

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Not mine you faker. I never signed up for any of your crap.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ockHHFfZ3b8&t=11

Sorry. It was my immediate first thought. 😅

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The Onion should allow Musk to block the sale of the Twitter handle, then sue Alex Jones for falsely advertising the sale of an account he can’t sell and sue Twitter for infringing on their trademark of the InfoWars brand.

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Alex Jones had no say in what was being sold. The Court seized his assets and sold them to pay the people he owes.

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