cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22447069

The difference between Russian and American authoritarianism

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Propaganda —> government approved news

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invasion -> intervention

The US has done some bad things foreign policy wise, but none have come close to what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. Even in Vietnam or was like 1/10th the amount of deaths, and that’s after over a decade of war vs Russia in a few years. Not to defend Vietnam cause that was ridiculously stupid and cruel. But Russia is in fact taking it to a new level in both regards.

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Where are you getting your numbers from? Vietnamese soldiers and civilians killed range from 970,000 to 3 million. The numbers vary, but so far about 100,000 Ukrainian soldier and civilians died. This is a tragedy indeed. But please fact check next time.

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US killed 3 million Vietnamese. Russia hasn’t come anywhere near that in Ukraine. Do you pull all your facts out of your arse?

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Communists, go live in Russia if you think America is so bad. I will take my good quality of life in capitalist America over any communist shithole all the live long day.

Communism is only good for impractical fantasy ideas and authoritarian shitholes. Prove me wrong if you can.

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You know Russia’s been capitalist for like 35 years now right?

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Russia isn’t a communist country lmao

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I don’t know about that but I heard there’s No True Scotsmen there.

Alternative option: Communists, move to China if America is so bad.

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What happened? I thought we were talking about Russia? What does China have to do with this?

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Words mean things. Russia isn’t communist.

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Dont forget, it all starts with:

Greed/avarice = rational self-interest

Greed is a character deficit, a personal failing, and a destructive force. We’ve made it our primary practiced cultural value. We deify the greedy instead of condemning them for their greed. We’ve made greed a virtue, having largely abandoned the term in favor of self-masturbatory, complimentary terms for it.

You don’t get to a place where empathy is a foreign concept, where your capital score is more important than the social contract, without demanding far more resources than most would need for a hundred lifetimes being tolerated by society.

The Gordon Geckos, Ebenezer Scrooges, and Mr. Potters were cautionary tales about bad people with bad values, villains. Yet Oliver Stone supposedly gets letters from fans who thank him for creating their fictional role model.

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Haha my dude you are comparing gulags to prison in the USA?

LMAO 🤣 i don’t want to say Lemmy is disconnected from reality but this kind of posts and the ones blaming Latin Americans and minorities for the election lost just makes everyone here look unhinged

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Would you like more information on the guy who died from bedbug bites without being charged or the forced labor or the heat strokes or the murders? What’s specifically not comparable?

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Would you like more information of the Soviet gulag system? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

An estimated 1.6 MILLION people died in detention. And that’s not even considering that most of the people imprisoned were just enemies of the Soviet/Russian state.

How much God damn Russian propaganda are you consuming to consider these things even remotely close? The US prison system is a disgrace, but these are not even remotely comparable.

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How much God damn Russian propaganda are you consuming to consider these things even remotely close?

Shit fuck goddamn bitch ass hell piss your mother cunt fuck ass shit

I mean, none that I’m aware of. You?

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The old USSR gulags are more like Guantanamo if anything. Today’s Russian prisons correspond to today’s US prisons pretty much.

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