Hold on I think I’ve heard this one before
The Western world really needs to start doing something about Russian propaganda and money in our politics. Or it is going to eat us from the inside out.
I think you start by arresting anybody who takes Russian money to influence elections for treason. Grab a few high profile folks like that, and the house of cards starts to crumble.
I was reading the comments on this on /r/europe and there were Romainians commenting how they were shocked as this as they’d literally never heard of him. He wasn’t in any TV debates or any of the usual media election circus. Friends, family - nobody had heard of him.
I know people live in “bubbles”, but for a candiate to suddenly be in the lead where people who are politically active have never heard of him is wild.
here in czechia, one of our new europarliament representatives is guy named filip turek, former car racer and current nazi. in the past, he had nothing to do with politics whatsover, i had no idea such person exists until after the elections.
his whole “campaign” on tiktok was “green deal woke, combustion engine good”. his adhoc party motoriste sobe (car owners united) in coalition with one more seemingly insignificant party got 10,2% of votes.
we are entering the era of real unfiltered democracy and it is fucking terrifying.
This has a real “democracy is bad, actually” vibe to it that I see expressed a lot on the right of the political spectrum (Tim Poole and the others taking Russian money to pump out pro-Republican bullshit).
Is this infecting the left now too? Or are you a conservative?
Is this infecting the left now too? Or are you a conservative?
if you can’t say after reading my comment, i would just move on 😂
I think it may be a mistake to avoid listening to positions other than your own because you internally categorize the sentiment as the enemy.
It’s mildly inflamatory to say that critiques of a system are equivalent to “an infection” and can stifle reasonable discussion
Turnout was 51%, similar to the figure five years ago.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when your ass doesn’t show up to elections.
It’s sad, yes. But, he doesn’t have nearly enough votes to win in the second round. Especially since the votes were super split among a bunch of guys. Most people will just vote for his opposition, Lasconi and Romania will have the first female president. Who is also only the 2nd or 3rd worst option, which is better than I expected. All in all, feels like a win to me.
It’s sad, yes. But, he doesn’t have nearly enough votes to win in the second round.
yeah, don’t count on that. this is result of the first round of presidential elections in czechia in 2018.
guy in the first place, milos zeman, is fucking pro-kremlin, pro-peking traitor, alcoholic and immoral asshole. he was going for his second term, so there was no doubt whatsoever about what he is and how he would act in the office.
the five guys behind him were all center-right liberal democratic candidates. we also thought “just add their votes together, there is no way the fucking moron will win”.
this is result of the second round:
he got ~1,9 million votes in the first round and 2,8 in the second one. it is not as easy as just counting the votes for his opposition.
we got another 5 years of the pro-kremlin traitor, who almost vomited into our crown jewels, after arriving there straight from ww2-end-celebration party at the russian embassy to prague :
I’m not saying it’s impossible for him to win. Definitely not counting our chickens yet. But many people in Romania vote for familiar names, for the big parties. He’s an independent and most people have never heard of him. In your case, that was the incumbent. It’s a big difference.
He somehow managed to get 2.1 million votes. That’s huge and a major surprise as everyone is saying. But it’s another thing to get 4-5 million votes. Yes, he’ll get more votes in the second round, but in order to win, he’ll need to more than double his votes. (He got 2.1 million out of almost 9.5 million votes) Which is unlikely. Not impossible, no. There’s still a chance that people will be dumb. But it’s unlikely.
This is what the tech billionaires want for all of us. Just wall-to-wall regressive fasho shitshows so we’re too busy fighting each other to see who’s hand is in the till.